From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 8 20:48:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05C116A41F for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:48:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from kweetal.tue.nl (kweetal.tue.nl [131.155.3.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D5D43D45 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:48:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A5413B62C; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 22:48:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kweetal.tue.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kweetal.tue.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 97569-04; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 22:48:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by kweetal.tue.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4AB513B62A; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 22:48:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j88Km3oH061374; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 22:48:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 22:48:03 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20050908204803.GQ20229@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Stijn Hoop , Giorgos Keramidas , Gerard Seibert , freebsd-questions References: <43206857.1010803@daleco.biz> <20050908165328.GB37407@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20050908173646.GO20229@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <20050908175519.GA20222@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> <20050908203203.GP20229@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <20050908204628.GC38895@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WR+jf/RUebEcofwt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050908204628.GC38895@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tue.nl Cc: Gerard Seibert , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Printing MAN pages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 20:48:06 -0000 --WR+jf/RUebEcofwt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 11:46:28PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2005-09-08 22:32, Stijn Hoop wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 07:55:19PM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 07:36:46PM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote: > > > > Highly useful to know, but shouldn't we update the man page for man= (1)? > > > > > > > > -t Use /usr/bin/groff -S -man to format the manual pa= ge, passing > > > > the output to stdout. The output from /usr/bin/gr= off -S -man > > > > may need to be passed through some filter or anoth= er before > > > > being printed. > > > > > > > > This does not exactly spell 'output postscript' to me... > > > > > > It does if you know that postscript is the default output format of > > > groff. If one doesn't know what format groff outputs by default, it= is > > > easily learned by reading the groff(1) manpage. > > > > True. I'm all in favor of a little bit more userfriendliness in man pag= es > > as long as it's not overkill though. > > > > How about: > > > > -t Generate a Postscript version of the manpage, intended for > > printing, by using /usr/bin/groff -S -man to format the manual > > page, passing the output to stdout. The output from > > /usr/bin/groff -S -man may need to be passed through some > > filter or another before being printed. > > > > That way I can do /print in less and still get some useful hint. >=20 > You all know that groff is thirdparty software, right? We have to take > this with the groff developers, if the change is ever going to be > imported in FreeBSD. Hmm, no I didn't realize that. Guess that's too much work for such a minor change :( > Having said that, I'm in favor of making manpages more useful by a > little verbosity (but not too much). Especially not too much ;-) --Stijn --=20 Help Wanted: Telepath. You know where to apply. --WR+jf/RUebEcofwt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDIKODY3r/tLQmfWcRAgpnAKCTEgCZb7mAXsZW7aQJ2qJo0y5VmgCgi1xJ 8O7ZbLpQefD5vXx6sG5a5Og= =QO5g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WR+jf/RUebEcofwt--