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Date:      Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:06:46 -0700
From:      Yuri <yuri@freebsd.org>
To:        Mathieu Arnold <mat@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Jochen Neumeister <joneum@freebsd.org>, Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r474820 - in head/graphics: . diff-pdf
Message-ID:  <e35112d3-9b72-12b1-1620-c6f5096490c8@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20180718085329.ibdq4so2akr6nxum@atuin.in.mat.cc>
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On 07/18/18 01:53, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
>> When the port is submitted but not yet committed, the submitter is
>> technically not a maintainer yet, so the above link doesn't apply.
> He is, and it does.
>
>> There is also this section:
>>
>>> We reserve the right to modify the maintainer's submission to better match
>> existing policies and style of the Ports Collection without explicit
>> blessing from the submitter or the maintainer.
> This talks about*style*  and*policies*  updating the version without the
> maintainer's approval is neither.


Most ports are submitted in a very poor shape. They don't build, don't 
pass stage qa, don't pass poudriere build, install things under /lib, 
and have all sorts of problems. This is the reality.

In order to commit them, they usually require a lot of work. Sometimes a 
dozen of changes or more that often go way beyond the "limited set of 
things" mentioned in the above post.

If all these changes require submitter's approval, this makes it a very 
impractical process. I would rather move on and not take such submissions.

Your concern is that the submitter would disagree and would feel bad? 
But this never happened in practice.

Nobody ever complained about the version change, so you worry about the 
problem that doesn't even exist.


Yuri





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