From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 25 12:34:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135CB37B93B for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.245.141.174.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.245.141.174]) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04431; Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3BB0D765.92D4DF9A@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:13:41 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Konstantinos Konstantinidis Cc: Technical Information , FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: helping victims of terror References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010924170815.0180aee8@threespace.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20010924191808.0227cf28@threespace.com> <3BAFD532.6ED7A320@duth.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Konstantinos Konstantinidis wrote: > Technical Information wrote: > > But even if the CIA was involved in training and arming these people, it > > was NOT done in the name of terrorism. It was made in the interest of > > stopping the spread of Communism, which has been part of our national > > directive for decades now. > > Let me ask you a question - is fighting the spread of Communism any more > just a cause than fighting the spread of Capitalism? It's not a question > of ideology mind you, and please don't take it as such. Just think about > it. What would happen for example if things went differently, and today > the USSR was still intact, the USA was split instead, and some of the > USSR supported "organizations" decided there was not much left as far > as Capitalism is concerned, and decided to fight back Communism instead. > This is quite a simplistic thoeretical outcome, but let me restate your > sentence now to suit this hypothetical situation: This situation could never arise. Beginning in the 1960's, the Soviet Union was dedicated to the destruction of the U.S.. This included deploying nuclear missles into Cuba to give them a first strike capability, upsetting the balance of power. The reason I say that this could never arise, is that they would not have stopped at splitting up the U.S. into nation-states. I refer you to what was nominally supposed to be a peace conference, in which Nikita Kruschev pounded the heel of his shoe on the table to drown out any discussion and yealled "We will bury you!". > The fact is that the CIA has created a monster (numerous ones mind you, > but we'll just talk about the ones at hand right now) and God knows what > promises it made to them appart from offering weapons and training. Let's say you are right; isn't it our responsibility, then, to slay that monster? -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message