From owner-freebsd-current Sun Dec 1 10:11:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1EE37B401; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:11:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A674443EAF; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 10:11:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gB1IBspk047479; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 11:11:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 11:11:29 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20021201.111129.35672010.imp@bsdimp.com> To: dcs@newsguy.com Cc: ru@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG, dougb@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [REPORT] Upgrade from 4.0-RELEASE to 5.0-CURRENT From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <3DEA2774.DCE1CACD@newsguy.com> References: <20021201150303.GA6369@sunbay.com> <3DEA2774.DCE1CACD@newsguy.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <3DEA2774.DCE1CACD@newsguy.com> "Daniel C. Sobral" writes: : There I go reply to all... : : IIRC, we never supported upgrade to 4.0 or 4.1 from anybut but the : *latest* version in the 3.x series. I sure hope we adopt the same policy : here. ru@ has stepped up to the plate to support more. He's gone through and made sure that all the way back to 4.0-release is upgradable (at least at each release point), going to support it through the first branchpoint. You as a committer aren't required to do extra work to make this work, except to not remove things he's done to make this work. It is unclear what should happen when a piece of thirdparty software is upgraded. However, core ruled a long time ago that ru@ can take reasonable measures to make sure that it works. ru@ has kept it up for a while now, so it looks like he's in it for the long run. This is only for native builds. Anything that is needed for cross building isn't included in this 'upgrade' path. It is there just to make our user's life easier. Also, core didn't want the work arounds to get too gross, but so far all the ones I've l ooked at were relatively inobtrusive. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message