From owner-cvs-all Sun Jul 14 8:35:42 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E8537B400; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 08:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C8D843E86; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 08:35:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 14 Jul 2002 16:35:36 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:35:36 +0100 From: David Malone To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/talk display.c talk.1 talk.c Message-ID: <20020714153536.GA97536@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200207141408.g6EE8ilL034295@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020714151233.GA36636@hades.hell.gr> <20020714082543.B74633@iguana.icir.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020714082543.B74633@iguana.icir.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:25:43AM -0700, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > Damn. Now I can't use ps/who to find out who's talking to whom! > > but you can still see that they are using "talk". You can still figure out who is talking to who with netstat and fstat I'd guess? > "ps" and friends are full of privacy violation, as they allow > unprivileged users to peek at what others are doing by liberally > showing program arguments (though they can be hidden by setproctitle, > but almost nobody does that) and program names (which cannot even > be hidden). > > I think this part should be seriously revised > (you in Bcc, are you listening ? :) Isn't this what kern.ps_showallprocs is for? I've always considered ps and w showing what other people are doing a good way for users to learn new commands. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message