From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 22 17:33:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6983106566C for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:33:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from mail-px0-f204.google.com (mail-px0-f204.google.com [209.85.216.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EE08FC12 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pxi42 with SMTP id 42so996058pxi.13 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:33:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.24.12 with SMTP id b12mr2043770waj.86.1253640793890; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:33:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <19e9a5dc0909221014o14e88c96ubf32142b85d781d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> <20090922135435.36a3d40e@lazybytes.org> <4AB90448.9020706@FreeBSD.org> <19e9a5dc0909221014o14e88c96ubf32142b85d781d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:33:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: Peter Wemm To: Gonzalo Nemmi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Sergey Vinogradov , Doug Barton , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND in the base (Was: Re: tmux(1) in base) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:33:14 -0000 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > ... and what about sendmail?? > couldn't it be easily replaced by DMA > > Regards > Gonzalo I just went and had a quick at dma's info. It looks almost exactly like what I've been saying for ages we should have in the base instead of a heavyweight MTA. "It accepts mails from locally installed Mail User Agents (MUA) and delivers the mails either locally or to a remote destination. Remote delivery includes several features like TLS/SSL support and SMTP authentication." On the subject of host/dig/nslookup. We had an old 'host' and 'nslookup' that were replaced with bind's heavyweight versions. Perhaps those could be revived and refreshed? The functionality of 'host' that I care about is: peter@overcee[10:19AM]~-1177> host www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com is an alias for www.wa1.b.yahoo.com. www.wa1.b.yahoo.com is an alias for www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com. www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com has address 209.131.36.158 peter@overcee[10:31AM]~-1178> host yahoo.com yahoo.com has address 209.191.93.53 yahoo.com has address 69.147.114.224 yahoo.com has address 209.131.36.159 yahoo.com mail is handled by 1 g.mx.mail.yahoo.com. yahoo.com mail is handled by 1 a.mx.mail.yahoo.com. yahoo.com mail is handled by 1 b.mx.mail.yahoo.com. yahoo.com mail is handled by 1 c.mx.mail.yahoo.com. yahoo.com mail is handled by 1 d.mx.mail.yahoo.com. yahoo.com mail is handled by 1 e.mx.mail.yahoo.com. yahoo.com mail is handled by 1 f.mx.mail.yahoo.com. peter@overcee[10:31AM]~-1179> host 209.131.36.158 158.36.131.209.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer f1.www.vip.sp1.yahoo.com. In other words, it's going to have to talk to the res_* functions in libc again instead of bind's replacement. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell