From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 23 3: 9:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C12437B402 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 03:09:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.194.207] (helo=tanya.raggedclown.net) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16TLHe-0009fg-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 11:09:38 +0000 Received: by tanya.raggedclown.net (tanya.raggedclown.intra, from userid 500) id 457B2118A; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:09:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:09:36 +0100 From: Cliff Sarginson To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A question from a convert from Windows to FreeBSD Message-ID: <20020123110936.GA1117@raggedclown.net> References: <007b01c1a381$93765900$328dfea9@pegasus> <2807.198.151.239.42.1011756241.squirrel@y3k.shacknet.nu> <00c801c1a3d8$438a8720$0100a8c0@pegasus> <20020123073218.GB4008@raggedclown.net> <016101c1a3e8$e58f52c0$0100a8c0@pegasus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <016101c1a3e8$e58f52c0$0100a8c0@pegasus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 02:35:20AM -0600, Bob Giesen wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cliff Sarginson" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:32 AM > Subject: Re: A question from a convert from Windows to FreeBSD > > > > ...it really would be much better > > if people stopped taking Windows as some kind of model to which > > FreeBSD should aspire... > > Geez, Cliff, I never suggested that FreeBSD should aspire to be like > Windoze! I was not particularly addressing the remark at you personally. > One soon-to-be ex-Win user mentioned the difficulty of installing > FreeBSD, another person took issue with that, and I simply pointed out what > should be obvious -- that there's good reason for a non-UNIX-guru who's used > to well-planned InstallShield-type installations to feel that the FreeBSD > installation is more difficult. Did I say anything on that subject as such ? Do you not think that comment has been made ad-nauseam on this list ? Has one of the people making that comment said that he or she will do something practical to ease the pain, or perceived pain ? > Your love of FreeBSD is duly noted -- but remember that love can be > blind. FreeBSD's not perfect in every way -- and (prepare for blasphemy...) > it's not better than Winblows in every way. (Most ways, by far, but not > every.) Can you not still be a defender of the OS while recognizing that > another is, indeed, better in some ways? I told you, I do not involve myself in such discussions in public. I am not in love with FreeBSD, (I hate computers actually, but if I have to use one then FreeBSD is my choice). Blasphemy, mmm. I was trying to make the point they are not useful. They happen so often on this list, and they go nowhere. They go nowhere because there are too many axes being ground, too much point-scoring. You see I don't really care whether Windows is Better than FreeBSD or vice-versa; I think it is a non-issue actually. Like is not being compared to like. Except for the fact they both run on a computer.. :) > Lighten thee up. It's just a couple of opinions about a work in > progress -- and flowery verse won't change mine. I am very light thank you :) I am not trying to change anyone's opinions. The last windows versus freebsd thread on this list went to over 100 messages in a single thread. I ended up saving the delete key on my keyboard from breaking down by rejecting all mail in that thread at the point of entry to my mailhost. Anyway, I am teetering again on the edge of breaking my New Year's resolution, so this is my last contribution to this thread. -- Regards Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message