From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 14:28:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0A716A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:28:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [83.120.8.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCF843D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:28:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (yjsbap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j67ERwPo073015 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:27:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j67ERvRn073014; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:27:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:27:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200507071427.j67ERvRn073014@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <42CD2FDA.8010102@ultra-secure.de> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-mobile User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Samsung X20-XVM 1600-V X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:28:02 -0000 Rainer Duffner wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > They give a 2-year pick-up warranty. What more could I > > ask for? > > They don't say how long it takes to "pick" it up Yes, they do: Next workday. > and you don't know how long it takes until you get it back. 5 to 7 days, including pick-up and return. > While various trade-magazine horror-stories may not be representative, > they are reason enough for me to stay away from consumer-level > notebooks: simply too many customers and too little incentive for > vendors to produce quality goods. There are horror stories for every major vendor, consumer- level or not. I agree that they're not representative, but I refuse to pay twice the price for the same hardware (basically) just because the vendor is a "big" name and doesn't call the thing "consumer-level". Things might be different for companies. One of our customers decided to buy HP/Compaq notebooks for the desktops, which are working pretty well, but were pretty expensive given the technical data (they're not high-end notebooks). They also have a professional service contract, which also costs money. Personally, 500 Euros make a huge difference for me when buying a notebokok for my private desk at home. My options are not to select between a cheap one or an expensive one -- it's rather to select between a cheap one or keep using my old one. Mind you, 1199 Euros is _not_ really cheap in my opinion. There are notebooks for as few as 699 Euros (sempron-based, 512 MB RAM, 40 GB HDD, CD-RW/DVD-ROM, 1024x768 SiS VGA). _Those_ are cheap. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "Perl will consistently give you what you want, unless what you want is consistency." -- Larry Wall