From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 17 19:43:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7EFE001E1 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay15.qsc.de (mailrelay15.qsc.de [212.99.187.254]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E252F6B2F3 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay15.qsc.de; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:43:23 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-1-252.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.1.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CAF93CBF9 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:43:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v8HJhLYo002945 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:43:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:43:21 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Disk not spinning up Message-Id: <20170917214321.8fd2157b.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay15.qsc.de with CC631683848 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1379 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:43:26 -0000 This is more a hardware question than a FreeBSD question, but as FreeBSD is involved, I think it's worth being asked here due to the experienced, intelligent, creative and (in an entirely positive sense) "unusual" participants on this list. I have a harddisk Quantum Fireball with ca. 1 GB capacity (yes, that's GB, not TB). It's a (P)ATA / "IDE" disk with a 40 pin connector for a flat cable, configured as master. The disk has been in use in a system that I built around 1995 and which I occasionaly used over the years. The last system activation was yesterday. Today, the disk just didn't spin up again. After extracting the disk from the system and using my fine "forensics adaptor" to power it, it made short cranking sounds (ca. 1 per second) and short beeps from time to time, then went silent. I can repeat this. Now I probably did something stupid, but a radio amateur friend had success with this approach on a 40 MB disk (yes, that's MB, not GB). I _opened_ the disk (with gloves, face mask and cap, just to minimize the dust falling from my head into the disk) and saw the central motor "rotate" clockwise and counterclockwise for less than 1/4 rotation. I tried to "help" the disk spin up as you can imagine, but it would not do so. My question: Had anyone had success getting such a disk work again? Is it worth searching my "museum" for a replacement controller? Or does it look more like a motor failure than a controller failure? I can read the disk with my "forensics adapter" like this (tested with the other 1.2 GB disk from the same system): $ sudo mount -t msdosfs -o ro /dev/da3s1 /mnt That's the FreeBSD-related part in this question. But of course, a disk not spinning up won't be recognized by the system. I'd like to at least access the disk once to copy as much as I can. Are there any ideas, options, chances, suggestions or experiments other than "throw it out of the window"? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...