From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 29 13:56:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A09516A4CE for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:56:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09B543D4C for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:56:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 2.2g3) with ESMTP id 1615061 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:56:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <8C70103096F17C4-450-3B03B@mblk-d13.sysops.aol.com> References: <200503251653.j2PGr3j01842@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <8C6FF97EBDFE0EC-A44-3796E@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com> <9e46c99e05032514415054a44e@mail.gmail.com> <4244962A.6090607@makeworld.com> <8C700348197B88C-EAC-39749@mblk-d17.sysops.aol.com> <42458C4C.9040603@makeworld.com> <8C700417DCC63B0-380-38F13@mblk-d39.sysops.aol.com> <20050326215959.5c342118@localhost> <8C700FE8F93100E-4B8-3C321@mblk-d50.sysops.aol.com> <4246DFFE.2020707@makeworld.com> <8C70103096F17C4-450-3B03B@mblk-d13.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3d783adf2786a29da535f3fdbefafb07@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:56:34 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com X-DNS-Paranoid: DNS ptr lookup of (65.193.73.208) failed Subject: Re: A Riddle X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:56:33 -0000 On Mar 27, 2005, at 11:42 AM, em1897@aol.com wrote: > Apparently you can't read. I didn't say you were an > idiot for running your own server. Can't read what? I'm not sure what line you're specifically referencing here, probably because you didn't inline the comment. But that's okay...we'll use a technique favored by trolls, and just stick your reply line wherever it is most convenient to twist the meaning! > Only that you > were an idiot to use your server to download > tons of crap from lists that you don't want to > read when for free you can have it stored elsewhere. A ton of crap? Wow...how much email do you keep in your spools, anyway? Are you running a mail server on an under-resourced system or something? If you aren't running with enough disk space for handling your domain's email, that sounds more like a violation of the "competency" clause in running your own mail server. > I have a server, and a domain (several) and lots of > other cool stuff. Like this cool Transformer, and this remote controlled boat, and this neat-o minibike my dad got me for Christmas! > I got tired of wasting cpu cycles > and disk space, considering that maybe 1 out of 20 > messages actually interests me. Oh, the hardship of being a sysadmin for a home network...the horror! The HORROR! > You guys always > complain about wasted bandwidth. Well if you use > yahoo or gmail or aol then you don't waste any bandwidth > of your own. You just read what you want to read. I think most "wasted bandwidth" complaints today are veiled hints for the other person to shut up because they're wasting time. If you're running your own server and bandwidth is a premium, you already have a problem.