From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 11 09:22:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA76B16A468 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4DE13C45A for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JUH00F9X3D94RG0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:22:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m0B9MKrE009803; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:22:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:22:20 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <3648.1200043092@critter.freebsd.dk> To: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-id: <4787354C.4000803@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 References: <3648.1200043092@critter.freebsd.dk> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080104) Cc: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Dominic Fandrey Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:22:22 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <47873174.4040802@gmail.com>, "Aryeh M. Friedman" > writes: > >>> Ny scheme that depends on us changing the license is a >>> non-starter for both practical (we'd need to get everybodys >>> acceptance of that, and piss of a large number of users who >>> have cleared the BSD license with their laywers) and >>> ideological (we don't want to create uncertainty about the well >>> known and deeply established BSD license). >>> >>> >> The revision I am suggesting [...] > > It does not matter. The BSD license will not be changed for the > reasons I stated. > > It ain't gonna happen. > > All you're doing now is hurting your case by annoyingly keeping > barking up the wrong tree. > And by denying that there is an apporiate venue you (among with other people) have by definition made it so anyone who presents such a purposal will be screwed before the debate even starts... I hardly call this honest debating techiniques... a more honest method would be agree the approriate place and set some ground rules for the debate... but it is clear that an honest debate is not the goal of any of the negative replies so far. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools. http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. "Free software != Free beer" Blog: http://www.flosoft-systems.com/flosoft_systems_community/blogs/aryeh/index.php -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHhzVMjRvRjGmHRgQRArz4AJ9SYKFHAZHM9DnhTLzCu2YBwq2Z3wCfYVlL 1LTs8JElioP663Ix+48tDpo= =bmZR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----