Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:46:31 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen <b.smeelen@ose.nl> To: Doug Hardie <bc979@lafn.org>, FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1 and SU+J Message-ID: <50976ED7.3090506@ose.nl> In-Reply-To: <EB501055-099C-4BA5-898C-1C552CFD9775@lafn.org> References: <AD4BB781-B3A3-4E26-966A-BAF4C3813B8E@lafn.org> <6a6b6ddcdec1296708c054d73b7b5a34@eumx.net> <5096470C.20904@ose.nl> <20121104131104.71e81e3a@gumby.homeunix.com> <509674FB.9080208@ose.nl> <50968410.60506@ose.nl> <EB501055-099C-4BA5-898C-1C552CFD9775@lafn.org>
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On 11/04/2012 11=3A18 PM=2C Doug Hardie wrote=3A =3E On 4 November 2012=2C at 07=3A04=2C Bas Smeelen wrote=3A =3E =3E=3E On 11/04/2012 03=3A00 PM=2C Bas Smeelen wrote=3A =3E=3E=3E On 11/04/2012 02=3A11 PM=2C RW wrote=3A =3E=3E=3E=3E On Sun=2C 04 Nov 2012 11=3A44=3A28 +0100 =3E=3E=3E=3E Bas Smeelen wrote=3A =3E=3E=3E=3E =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E On 11/03/2012 07=3A30 PM=2C Herbert J=2E Skuhra wrote=3A =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E On 03=2E11=2E2012 13=3A48=2C Doug Hardie wrote=3A =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E I didn=27t notice that journaling is on by default an= d now dump is =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E failing=2E The only way I can see to disable journal= ing requires =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E that the file system be dismounted=2C or read-only=2E= This is a =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E remote machine and journaling is on root=2E Is there= any other way =3E=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E=3E that would not require me to make a long trip out to= the site=3F =3E=3E I guess I was a little off here=2C it actually worked for / also =3E=3E See further below for the whole story =3E=3E This was all done remote with ssh =3E=3E =3E=3E =24 mount =3E=3E /dev/da0p2 on / =28ufs=2C local=2C soft-updates=29 =3E=3E devfs on /dev =28devfs=2C local=2C multilabel=29 =3E=3E /dev/da0p3 on /tmp =28ufs=2C local=2C soft-updates=29 =3E=3E /dev/da0p4 on /var =28ufs=2C local=2C soft-updates=29 =3E=3E /dev/da0p5 on /usr =28ufs=2C local=2C soft-updates=29 =3E=3E =24 su =3E=3E Password=3A =3E=3E root=40osebart=3A/usr/home/Freebee =23 rm /=2Esujournal =3E=3E root=40osebart=3A/usr/home/Freebee =23 rm /var/=2Esujournal =3E=3E root=40osebart=3A/usr/home/Freebee =23 rm /tmp/=2Esujournal =3E=3E root=40osebart=3A/usr/home/Freebee =23 rm /usr/=2Esujournal =3E=3E root=40osebart=3A/usr/home/Freebee =23 uname -a =3E=3E FreeBSD osebart=2Eose=2Enl 9=2E1-RC2 FreeBSD 9=2E1-RC2 =230 r241106= =3A Mon Oct 1 =3E=3E 18=3A26=3A44 UTC 2012 =3E=3E root=40farrell=2Ecse=2Ebuffalo=2Eedu=3A/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC= amd64 =3E I can=27t get that to work on i386=2E Here is /etc/rc=2Ed/fsck=3A =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =3E fi =3E =3E echo =22Ready for tunefs=22 =3E /sbin/tunefs -j disable /dev/da0p2 =3E =7D =3E =3E load=5Frc=5Fconfig =24name =3E run=5Frc=5Fcommand =22=241=22 =3E =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =3E =3E =3E reboot computer and here is the output from messages=3A =3E =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =3E =3E =3E Nov 4 14=3A07=3A19 Router kernel=3A Ready for tunefs =3E Nov 4 14=3A07=3A19 Router kernel=3A Clearing journal flags from inode= 4 =3E Nov 4 14=3A07=3A19 Router kernel=3A tunefs=3A soft updates journaling= cleared but soft updates still set=2E =3E Nov 4 14=3A07=3A19 Router kernel=3A tunefs=3A remove =2Esujournal to r= eclaim space =3E Nov 4 14=3A07=3A19 Router kernel=3A Mounting local file systems=3A=2E= =3E =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =3E =3E and the output from mount=3A =3E =3E Router=23 mount =3E /dev/da0p2 on / =28ufs=2C local=2C journaled soft-updates=29 =3E devfs on /dev =28devfs=2C local=2C multilabel=29 =3E =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =3E =3E Journaled is still on after 2 reboots=2E =3E =3E Router=23 uname -a =3E FreeBSD Router 9=2E1-RC2 FreeBSD 9=2E1-RC2 =230 r241133=3A Tue Oct 2 1= 7=3A11=3A45 UTC 2012 root=40obrian=2Ecse=2Ebuffalo=2Eedu=3A/usr/obj/usr= /src/sys/GENERIC i386 =3E =3E -- Doug Hi Doug This is bad=2E It did not work for me that way either on the / partition=2C= but=20 it worked on the other partitions=2E Because I have seperate /tmp /var and /usr partition I was able to mount th= e=20 / partition readonly in multiuser mode with mount -o ro / and then tunefs -= j=20 disable and right after that reboot=2E It seems that somehow when the / partition gets mounted after disabling the= =20 journal=2C journaled soft updates is still set and thus still enabled=2C bu= t=20 with a reboot it gets cleared=3F I don=27t really understand this=2E This e-mail message=2C including any attachment=28s=29=2C is intended solel= y for the addressee or addressees=2E Any views or opinions presented herein= are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of O= SE=2E If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please return t= his e-mail message and the attachment=28s=29 to the sender and delete and d= estroy all copies=2E
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