From owner-freebsd-security Tue Jun 12 13:49:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (diarmadhi.mushhaven.net [209.16.107.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2908A37B407 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:49:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f5CKnGD73996; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:49:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:49:16 -0400 From: Jamie Norwood To: Garrett Wollman Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW almost works now. Message-ID: <20010612164916.A73904@mushhaven.net> References: <657B20E93E93D4118F9700D0B73CE3EA0166D97D@goofy.epylon.lan> <20010612152856.A72299@mushhaven.net> <3B267827.5090002@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010612162749.A73655@mushhaven.net> <200106122044.QAA93356@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106122044.QAA93356@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>; from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:44:02PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 04:44:02PM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > No, it has a host of limitations all it's own, not the least of which is > > that is is actually less efficient at transfering files, > > Balderdash! HTTP and TCP both send files over identical TCP > connections, which makes them equally efficient. There really is no > reason for FTP to continue to exist (but yet it does). OK, even not arguing the point, they are still quite different applications. FTP still very much serves a purpose. For one thing, uploading via HTTP is excessively non-trivial. For another, while Lynx and Links are well and good, browsing files from a text-only medium is also non-useful with the currently implementations of HTTP. Sure, when I am at a desktop, I use Netscrape/Exploder/Moz-ill-a to browse FTP sites, but it isn't feasible when I am looking on gnu.org for the source code to gcc/make/ whatnot. Jamie > > -GAWollman > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message