From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 31 7:45:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745DC37B4A9 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (msgbas2x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F36143E4A for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor_dorovskoy@agilent.com) Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF8E207D; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:45:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from axcsbh1.cos.agilent.com (axcsbh1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.143]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 26568D5; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:45:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 130.29.152.143 by axcsbh1.cos.agilent.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:45:32 -0600 Received: by axcsbh1.cos.agilent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <355M6TVK>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:45:32 -0600 Message-ID: <0D9185CE635BD511ACA50090277A6FCF0388097E@axcs18.cos.agilent.com> From: "DOROVSKOY,IGOR (A-Portsmouth,ex1)" To: 'Barkley Vowk' , Axel Simon Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Harddisk damage by driver? Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:45:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a very good point. In my practice in many cases the bad IDE cable may cause a lot of troubles or hard identify problems even some very strange like successfully ftped files are different (!) - no any errors, warnings, nothing. I've ended up with rounded cables and do advise to replace flats as soon as someone complains about "weird thing". Here are cheap and good: http://www.svcompucycle.com/ata133.html Thanks, Igor -----Original Message----- From: Barkley Vowk [mailto:bvowk@3jane.math.ualberta.ca] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:10 AM To: Axel Simon Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? I've had the same problem before, I was using an IDE raid board, and found that the best approach is to order 20 of the shortest (that fit), highest quality cables you can afford and then try them until you find one that works. (granted, I didnt have disk failures, I just had odd read errors and resets, but you asked about cable problems). One thing to remember is to never crease or fold the cables, keep them as straight and uncrinkled as possible. I know that sounds like a load of crap, but if your even near my office I can demonstrate for you. ----------------------------------------------------------- Barkley C. Vowk -- Systems Analyst -- University of Alberta Math Sciences Department - Barkley.Vowk@math.ualberta.ca Office: CAB642A, 780-492-4064 Opinions expressed are the responsibility of the author and may not reflect the opinions of others or reality. On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Axel Simon wrote: > Hi, > > I am very fed up with this rotten computer which seems to break all the > harddiscs I put in. The story: > > The computer is based on an Intel Desktop D815EEA2/D815EPEA2 motherboard. > > - After five month, the built-in Fujitsu 40 GB UDMA100 drive one day > started to make some very loud, repetetive clicking sounds for > approximately 3 seconds and was then unresponsive. After some attempts, > the harddisc came up again and booted. > > - The replacement harddrive of the same brand and size did some clicking > noises here and then and stalled as well after only three days. I > complained louder and got a new Western Digital 38166MB WD400BB-53CAA0>, UDMA100, a new motherboard and a new cable. > > - Shortly after that, my second harddrive on the secondary channel 78167MB > , DMA33 occasionally made some clicking noises. > > - It stalled for the first time complitely after a large data transmisson > and I decided to ask Maxtor for a replacement. I got a replacement > harddrive and replaced the 15cm UDMA100 cable with a 1m UDMA66 cable (so > it sais) and attached the harddisk. Funnily, not my old harddrive refuses > to work, but my new on exhibits hard read errors, is resetted, removed > from configuration and all that. > > Two possibilities: > > - This is just unlucky incidence and I need to get a propper UDMA100 cable > which is not 1m long. > > - The FreeBSD drive does not work propperly on this type of motherboard. > Should I get an external UDMA controller? > > I need some help here. > > Thanks a lot, > > Axel. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message