From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 30 21:22:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655AE106568E for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [66.119.213.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571998FC29 for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from ruby.owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m4UL4pZW027869; Fri, 30 May 2008 14:04:51 -0700 From: Kent Organization: owt.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:04:51 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <483F9115.4010903@pixelhammer.com> <20080530190416.GA7251@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20080530190416.GA7251@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200805301404.51880.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: DAve , Gary Kline Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 21:22:07 -0000 On Friday 30 May 2008 12:04:16 pm Gary Kline wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 01:31:01AM -0400, DAve wrote: > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > >>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline > > > > I nearly spit coffee on my keyboard! I agree with you 100%. When we all > > did HTML with BBedit and Textpad, people like Black, Tog, and Nielsen > > kept everyone designing websites to best serve the content. Now it is > > all about the sizzle, but there is rarely a steak. > > > > DAve > > You got it, man. At least 80% of the site I happen on--at least > that are selling something--have so much kerrapp going on I'd go > blind if I stayed there for very long. (I so *enjoy* being able > to block ads or stop-movie (gnash), and then find the router or > DVD or whatever. And get out!) I hate the over use of flash and etc. I sometimes think that is similar to putting a pdf file on a website instead of using txt. It bypasses some of the quirks and you see what they want you to see. > > This is not the kind of page i'M aiming for. --But then, I > really don't know what/how I want to revise my www homepage. I use Adobe's GoLive but they killed it for Dreamweaver. If it had been a modest upgrade price, I would have upgraded but I didn't. > > The reason for the strange display was a bad comment. So at > least I've learned something! Now www looks fine from ffox, > opera, and Konq. I've forbidden my tweenager from using IE so > have to wait for wife. Or see if friends reply who use IE. > I have IE 7, Firefox, Seamonkey, and Safari on my main XP machine. I can't see any obvious difference. I also can't see any obvious difference between Firefox and Konqueror on FreeBSD and the XP browsers. FWIW, IE seems to complain on many of the sites I visit. It has a little comment on the status bar to the effect of completed but with errors. I didn't see it on your site. Kent