From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu May 24 14:49:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from motgate3.mot.com (motgate3.mot.com [144.189.100.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A8037B423 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 14:49:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Charles.S.Libby@motorola.com) Received: [from mothost.mot.com (mothost.mot.com [129.188.137.101]) by motgate3.mot.com (motgate3 2.1) with ESMTP id OAA20801 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 14:43:09 -0700 (MST)] Received: [from il33exm02.wes.mot.com (il33exm02.wes.mot.com [154.56.3.102]) by mothost.mot.com (MOT-mothost 2.0) with ESMTP id OAA08914 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 14:49:26 -0700 (MST)] Received: by il33exm02.wes.mot.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 24 May 2001 16:49:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: Libby Charles-CCL044 To: "'freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: FW: mad about questions? newbies list=what? Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:49:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry Drew, I replied instead of forwarded. -----Original Message----- From: Libby Charles-CCL044 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 4:48 PM To: 'Drew Tomlinson' Subject: RE: mad about questions? newbies list=what? I agree that section should be worded so it is clear this list is for discussion, not questions, Maybe we should do a newbee-questions list. I still feel intimidated and have not posted questions to questions as of yet. There is so much to read that I fear I will not have read something and will get flamed on questions. Charles -----Original Message----- From: Drew Tomlinson [mailto:drewt@writeme.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 6:17 PM To: 'Libby Charles-CCL044'; 'Sue Blake' Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: mad about questions? newbies list=what? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Libby > Charles-CCL044 > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 2:19 PM > To: 'Sue Blake' > Cc: 'freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG' > Subject: RE: mad about questions? newbies list=what? > > > It does??? Would you mind letting me know (in private mail if > you like) > what book that was, and exactly what words it uses? If people > really are being told to ask _support_questions_ here, that's a shame. > It would mean that they would be stepping outside the list charter. > Keeping within list charters is a condition of using the freebsd > lists. You should go to the authoritative source, the list charters > (descriptions) on the freebsd.org web site. > > > The Complete FreeBSD 3rd Edition > > Chapter 1: Introduction > Page 15 > Paragraph Support > > "A good place to start is with the mailing lists > FreeBSD-newbies and freebsd-questions respectively. To sign > up sen a mail message to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with the text ..." > > I subscribed to this list because of this page as well. I > just have lurked for a while so I have seen several flamed > for asking questions, and I know to go to questions when I ask. This is correct and I agree that it is somewhat misleading. However, if you continue reading a few more lines, it states "Please be sure to read the charters before subscribing or sending mail to any FreeBSD mailing list for an explanation of which topics are relevant for a given list and what types of postings are and are not allowed." From what I've seen on the message boards, Greg Lehey is working on a 4th edition of the book. Maybe this section could be rewritten to be a little clearer? Drew > > > Charles S. Libby > Technical Instructor > iDEN Technical Training > Motorola > (847) 576-0617 > Rom 10:9,10 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message