From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 11 12:21:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32CE37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:21:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id VAA05777; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:21:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5BJKGi99068; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:20:16 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from j) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:20:16 +0200 From: Joerg Wunsch To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: locale names reorganization Message-ID: <20010611212016.K94133@uriah.heep.sax.de> Reply-To: Joerg Wunsch References: <20010610163853.A1166@nagual.pp.ru> <200106101537.f5AFavo33433@mail.uic-in.net> <200106102136.f5ALawu94200@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611020547.A1379@nagual.pp.ru> <20010611082525.F94133@uriah.heep.sax.de> <20010611160108.A34164@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010611160108.A34164@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 04:01:09PM +0400 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Andrey A. Chernov wrote: >> Thanks. I wish there would also be `shortcut names', any other >> system i've been working with for example provides a locale named >> `de_DE' so you don't have to type `de_DE.ISO8859-1' all day. >> FreeBSD is the only (known to me) exception. (Before anybody's >> arguing, i don't care > Short locale names dramatically increase program efforts to guess > locale in each program which tries to deal with it directly, since > suppose that program have the same default assumption (from where?) > for missing information. Sorry, i can't follow you. Which program is trying to guess local names, and how could i get a problem by providing a user-friendly alias name (i. e., a symlink)? And, why do all the other Unices don't have a problem with it? > If you need to type them - better make shell variables with > short names. Sorry, even /remembering/ the long name is a nuisance for the users, and i always have a hard time explaining them why they have to type thoseoverlylonglocalenames just on FreeBSD only -- or rather, i can't explain them. Not when seeing that all the other Unices don't require it. -- cheers, J"org .-.-. --... ...-- -.. . DL8DTL http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message