Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 20:29:58 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf <ralf-mardorf@riseup.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-ID: <20210124202958.1984ba6a@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20210124191123.e14e770a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <YAz90Yiz1YC/wynK@admin.sibptus.ru> <CAM8r67AV4xMHTUMPJM9GHSGH_E1RAoUZ_QeBfbG06F6ishiYWw@mail.gmail.com> <YA1b/Evxfrk3NLj9@admin.sibptus.ru> <8e371d97-a723-92f9-a884-087cc240ff96@cedro.info> <20210124191123.e14e770a.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 19:11:23 +0100, Polytropon wrote: >Only older hardware might need manual intervention. Hi, I didn't read the complete thread, so I don't know if this was already mentioned. Relatively "modern" Intel GPUs need hardcore intervention on Linux machines. If FreeBSD isn't affect, it's nice. Latest Linux kernels suffer from a regression, you either need to migrate from the "intel" to the "modesetting" driver or you need to downgrade to an older, still supported LTS kernel. However, soon or later even LTS kernel support will be dropped by kernel.org. My machine is affected, my relatively "modern" GPU is actually very old, but I won't get rid of issues with the latest and greatest Intel GPU, so I switched to the "modesetting" driver, but using it is a PITA. Firfox suffers from short hangs, Chrome can't be used at all, even not by following a recommended workaround, to use the "disable GPU" feature. I'm back to the "intel" driver... [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf Driver "intel" #Driver "vesa" #Driver "modesetting" ...and build old LTS kernels. JFTR those halfway modern desktop environments or Linux window managers work very good when using the "modesetting" driver. Just important software doesn't work properly. Maybe FreeBSD is affected, too? A few links are provided by https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/intel_graphics#Installation . "Note: Some (Debian & Ubuntu, Fedora, KDE) recommend not installing the xf86-video-intel driver, and instead falling back on the modesetting driver for Gen4 and newer GPUs (GMA 3000 from 2006 and newer). See [1], [2], Xorg#Installation, and modesetting(4). However, the modesetting driver can cause problems such as Chromium Issue 370022 and vsync jitter/video stutter in mpv." Regards, Ralf
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