From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 11:56:13 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA28390 for current-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:56:13 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA28384 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 11:56:11 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA28600; Mon, 26 Jun 95 12:47:47 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9506261847.AA28600@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Crypt code summary(2). To: rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 95 12:47:47 MDT Cc: phk@freefall.cdrom.com, mark@grondar.za, wollman@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199506261757.KAA04895@gndrsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Jun 26, 95 10:57:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Yes. It was offered on the basis that it be used to form a BSD Consortium. > > Well, since you are the one who always pushes the BSD Consortium, can > you tell me how the formation of it is going :-) :-) :-0 BSDI seems uninterested because they feel they can simply dictate the future of BSD because their strong historical ties to CSRG have resulted in them being the sole recognized authorities. They also have almost total control of the BSD commercial software effort and therefore can dictate the ABI. NetBSD seems uninterested because they feel they can simply dictate the future of BSD because their porting efforts have resulted in them being uniquely suited to taking all the architectural issues into account in their source base. Their ABI compatability efforts have given them access to the commercial software on each ported platform, at least to a limited extent, and they feel they will displace the commercial OS's. FreeBSD seems uninterested because they feel they can simply dictate the future of BSD because of their technological enhancements in the area of installation, VM, and commodity hardware coverage have resulted in them being more palletable to a larger user base. They point to the number of messages in the FreeBSD news groups being larger than the twice number of messages in the NetBSD and BSD groups combined as evidence of their success. Linux seems uninterested because they feel they can simply dictate the use of Linux instead by subverting public BSD channels into Linux advocacy groups. You will be assimilated. They have a magazine. 8-|. Other than that, everyone agrees it's a good idea, but no one wants to make it their part time job, even though it could be a paid job, given that non-profit corporations still have paid employees. Sort of the same as is true for a "BSD Journal" (though given the Linux success in this area, that could go full-time easily). As for me: ideas aren't a problem; time to implement them all *is* a problem. I can think of many, many ways someone can make their own job. On the effort vs. return scale, I'm doing close to the maximum edge on the curve, and don't have much time for following much else. I make intentional exceptions for things I think will advance the state of the art in various areas, but that's more as long term investments in the future than anything else (and the only things most of you see are computer science related). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.