From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 11 09:23:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F5B16A474 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D204113C4D3 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JUH009OF3FP5EJ0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:23:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m0B9NnHM009809; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:23:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:23:49 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <20080111092015.GA17702@freebie.xs4all.nl> To: Wilko Bulte Message-id: <478735A5.7050307@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 References: <47873174.4040802@gmail.com> <3648.1200043092@critter.freebsd.dk> <20080111092015.GA17702@freebie.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080104) Cc: Dominic Fandrey , Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:23:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Wilko Bulte wrote: > Quoting Poul-Henning Kamp, who wrote on Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at > 09:18:12AM +0000 .. >> In message <47873174.4040802@gmail.com>, "Aryeh M. Friedman" >> writes: >> >>>> Ny scheme that depends on us changing the license is a >>>> non-starter for both practical (we'd need to get everybodys >>>> acceptance of that, and piss of a large number of users who >>>> have cleared the BSD license with their laywers) and >>>> ideological (we don't want to create uncertainty about the >>>> well known and deeply established BSD license). >>>> >>>> >>> The revision I am suggesting [...] >> It does not matter. The BSD license will not be changed for the >> reasons I stated. >> >> It ain't gonna happen. >> >> All you're doing now is hurting your case by annoyingly keeping >> barking up the wrong tree. > > Worse, it is hurting FreeBSD because it burns committer cycles that > better be spent on doing something sensible instead of arguing > about a license change that will never happen. > If one never tries to change something then it will never get changed and dismissing something as impossible from the get go is the hight of close mindiness (which everyone is accusing me of when the fact is I was not the one that started using dishonest debating methods) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools. http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. "Free software != Free beer" Blog: http://www.flosoft-systems.com/flosoft_systems_community/blogs/aryeh/index.php -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHhzWkjRvRjGmHRgQRAr9yAKCfkfoCvdQ5dr1TdvxiZY5SKjeS4ACfRiZN rmOZIqB9r5W+0VbA28pOOL0= =Q8tr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----