From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 9 10:09:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F79CA22; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 10:09:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x22d.google.com (mail-pa0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39540CA0; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 10:09:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pabtp1 with SMTP id tp1so39523796pab.2; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 03:09:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:reply-to:subject:references:to:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=t1HgbRvuDYKV2dX0czov4JVrGiF4gX8Mdjdlkcqf0MU=; b=qSzaqNwvX1lgBQbXZNlYFYlHgkS62OrF5cOhmS8s9ZTo8P0rcdpwLGs8hpswjy8/gM Qj8rGEPsae26r/v5U4qGquGNVBCAXjRtogeIznc33lBWu4ne03xhAczhk+dzbrVVGDW8 HZzd2kDV2pqo+sBFUtt8sNbGVKLYoUddRJ3BXiaaxsuWeDKFNZ0jS8OXlcM3PDAqJi35 F/MhESRmgfqCuLHBMeupb/5d1Ibx7UPBdPtZlOzuVHANb75nNh/q0OSzVwehKXHGyZvO beWECTXfKDwU47gdcMyik3HFFN6lufBJtJVyx89mmXYpjEkSd4k+16uh4dgKKQqOy3sb 0sLQ== X-Received: by 10.70.38.225 with SMTP id j1mr28857871pdk.14.1428574178948; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 03:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (ppp59-167-128-11.static.internode.on.net. [59.167.128.11]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q3sm14018244pds.49.2015.04.09.03.09.36 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Apr 2015 03:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Kubilay Kocak Reply-To: koobs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/base ntpd rc.d script with WITHOUT_NTP=yes references: <20150408164825.GB1280@xtaz.uk> To: Matt Smith , ports@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org From: Kubilay Kocak message-id: <55264FD9.409@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 20:09:29 +1000 user-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:37.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/37.0 mime-version: 1.0 in-reply-to: <20150408164825.GB1280@xtaz.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Cy Schubert X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 10:09:39 -0000 On 9/04/2015 2:48 AM, Matt Smith wrote: > Hi, > > I just upgraded my server to 10.1-STABLE r281264 and when I ran > mergemaster it told me that /etc/rc.d/ntpd was stale and would I like to > delete it. It's never done this before. I've figured out it's because I > have WITHOUT_NTP=yes in /etc/src.conf. I did this because I use the > ports version of ntpd and thus wanted to remove the base installed > version so that when I run commands like ntpq it's using my possibly > newer port installed version and not the older one. > > However, the port version doesn't have its own rc script. It usually > uses the base version with ntpd_program and ntpd_config set. With this > latest change it means I have to have the base version installed again. > Is it possible to get the port version to have its own rc script? > Hi Matt, It is certainly *possible*, and best addressed with an enhancement request (via Bugzilla) to the NTP port maintainer, who I've CC'd here. I like the idea as it improves user experience, removes a POLA violation, and further decouples ports/pkg from base (which we like) ./koobs