From owner-cvs-all Wed Sep 5 23:52: 5 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7898637B407; Wed, 5 Sep 2001 23:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f866pkW78039; Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:51:46 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:51:46 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Greg Lehey Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man9 style.9 Message-ID: <20010906095146.C74323@sunbay.com> References: <200109050046.f850kqZ94002@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010905143804.Q96906@sunbay.com> <20010906090555.H4447@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010906090555.H4447@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 09:05:55AM +0930 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 09:05:55AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 5 September 2001 at 14:38:04 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 05:46:51PM -0700, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> grog 2001/09/04 17:46:51 PDT > >> > >> Modified files: > >> share/man/man9 style.9 > >> Log: > >> Correct (English language) style. No change in (C language) style. > >> > >> Revision Changes Path > >> 1.64 +15 -15 src/share/man/man9/style.9 > >> > > And what was wrong with exclamation marks? > > They were out of place, and didn't conform with the style of the rest > of the document. > > Note that in English, an imperative normally does not require > a terminating exclamation mark; indeed, it's not allowed. > > From the Chicago Manual of Style, 14th Edition: > > 5.17 An exclamation point [sic] is used to mark an outcry or an > emphatic or ironic comment. To avoid detracting from its > effectiveness, however, the author should use this punctuation > sparingly. > > 5.19 The use of an exclamation point as an editorial protest is > strongly discouraged. > > From the Commonwealth of Australia Style Manual, 5th edition: > > 6.83 An exclamation mark should be used to indicate a high degree of > surprise, incredulity or strong emotion. > From the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary: An exclamation mark os (US) exclamation point is used at the end of a sentence expressing surprise, joy, anger, shock or some other strong emotion: That's marvellous! 'Never!' she cried. In informal written English, more than one exclamation mark, or an exclamation mark and a question mark, may be used: 'Your wife's just given birth to triplets.' 'Triplets!?' Never of the above apparently falls under those style(9) cases. > By contrast, Duden says: > > R28 Das Ausrufezeichen steht nach Aufforderungs- bzw. Befehlssatzen > und nach Wunschsatzen. > Было очень интересно узнать, спасибо! > If you look at the cases in point, you'll find that both possibilities > mentioned in Duden apply to these sentences. Neither English source > allows an exclamation mark to terminate a sentence in imperative mood. > Hmm, hmm. Under the `imperative' article of the above mentioned dictionary, I read: : 2 (grammar) a form of a verb that expresses a command: In ``Go away!'' : the verb is an imperative/is in the imperative. Compare INDICATIVE 2, : INFINITIVE, SUBJUNCTIVE. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message