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Date:      Fri, 9 May 2008 11:58:31 +0200
From:      Daniel Roethlisberger <daniel@roe.ch>
To:        Elliott Perrin <elliott@c7.ca>
Cc:        freebsd-pf@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: iptables rule in pf
Message-ID:  <20080509095831.GB14550@hobbes.ustdmz.roe.ch>
In-Reply-To: <1210299343.28559.31.camel@kensho.c7.ca>
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Elliott Perrin <elliott@c7.ca> 2008-05-08:
> On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 13:35 +0200, Daniel Roethlisberger wrote:
> > Elliott Perrin <elliott@c7.ca> 2008-05-08:
> > > On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 11:36 +0300, Oleksandr Samoylyk wrote:
> > > > CZUCZY Gergely wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 08 May 2008 11:05:45 +0300 Oleksandr Samoylyk
> > > > > <oleksandr@samoylyk.sumy.ua> wrote:
> > > > >> CZUCZY Gergely wrote:
> > > > >>> On Thu, 08 May 2008 01:04:54 +0300 Oleksandr Samoylyk
> > > > >>> <oleksandr@samoylyk.sumy.ua> wrote:
> > > > >>>> Dear Community,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I want to move some of our firewalls from Linux/iptables to
> > > > >>>> FreeBSD/pf.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> After reading man pf.conf for a couple of minutes I
> > > > >>>> couldn't find the realization of such iptables rule in pf:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i ethX -d ! my.smtp.server
> > > > >>>> -p tcp --dport 25 -j DROP
> > > > >>> block in on $interface proto tcp from any to !
> > > > >>> my.smtp.server port 25
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i ethX -p tcp --dport 2525
> > > > >>>> -j DNAT --to-destination :25
> > > > >>> rdr on $interface proto tcp from any to port 2525 ->
> > > > >>> <the_destionation_you_have_omitted> port 25
> > > > >> I meant _any_ destination with 25 port.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> That iptables rule worked for any destination.
> > > > > You cannot rewrite a packet's destination address to _any_
> > > > > destination.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's like you cannot submit a package at the post office with
> > > > > the destination address "any". It's just meaningless.
> > > > 
> > > > However it works with iptables. :)
> > > > 
> > > > What can I do in my situation in order to gain the same
> > > > functionality by means of pf or other additional daemons?
> > > 
> > > It doesn't just "work" in iptables. All you are doing is PAT with
> > > that rule, rewriting destination ports. What does your DNAT table
> > > look like where packets matching this rule then jump to? [...]
> > 
> > Your analysis of the two provided netfilter rules is wrong.  DNAT is
> > a built-in pseudo-chain which does the actual destination
> > address/port translation, in this case it rewrites the destination
> > port to 25 and leaves the destination address untouched.
> > 
> > Just to clear up some of the terms used with netfilter: you don't
> > jump to tables, you jump to chains.  Tables in netfilter are "nat",
> > "filter" and "mangle"; like parallel worlds with their own set of
> > chains, each table having a distinct purpose (packet filtering,
> > address/port translations, and other packet mangling/tagging).
> > 
> 
> I was not sure if DNAT was a built in or not. As far as the difference
> between tables / chains, thanks for clearing that up. I have not
> firewalled with ipchains/iptables for quite some time so I am not
> completely up to speed on the semantics surrounding the software's
> current incarnation. If having used incorrect terminology resulted in
> difficulties I apologize.
> 
> However, from a processing perspective my analysis is correct in
> concept. The second rule does a port address translation switching the
> destination port from port 2525 to port 25 on packets that match the
> rule.
> [...]

You are right in that aspect, I apologize for my bad choice of words.

-- 
Daniel Roethlisberger
http://daniel.roe.ch/



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