From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 28 20:24:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6712E1065679 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james-freebsd-fs2@jrv.org) Received: from mail.jrv.org (rrcs-24-73-246-106.sw.biz.rr.com [24.73.246.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3AC8FC25 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kremvax.housenet.jrv (kremvax.housenet.jrv [192.168.3.124]) by mail.jrv.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9SKOXqn086760; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:24:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from james-freebsd-fs2@jrv.org) Authentication-Results: mail.jrv.org; domainkeys=pass (testing) header.from=james-freebsd-fs2@jrv.org DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=enigma; d=jrv.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Fr52XeWdHJPQVRdr3YIwxMSZRQwOvTIS+ZQctOX1s/60Y2WD0LIuzKtFnivi3EYfo rVtlXplrsvKSOI8wFLuO075sieIBwbQJM44mGiO8KUInlle0cgi0QH7lkZWlr7uoUBe 4W5Ac4KVnDuDcRFCGUmRLb0QBETRxA6uWcyc4+8= Message-ID: <4AE8A881.7050203@jrv.org> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:24:33 -0500 From: "James R. Van Artsdalen" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org References: <3171.1256756201@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <3171.1256756201@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: ZFS licensing question X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:24:37 -0000 There are lies, damn lies, and Corporate Press Releases. Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > The quality of the protection hinges on conditions: > > 1. Sun has to exist and stand by its word. > > 2. Sun must have enough money to do so (see 1.) phk is exactly right; in my experience it has always been easier to get a billion dollar's worth of guarantees from a vendor than to get a million dollar's worth. Matt Simerson wrote: > Apple needs a next generation file system, and they need it last year. No they don't, not unless there was something in last quarter's results I missed. The benefit to FreeBSD is clear: ZFS, coupled with the SIIS driver and SATA port multipliers, will make it possible to build cheap storage arrays in the 50 TB and above range using FreeBSD. The other things are k00l but it's the huge cost savings I'll pitch to clients once the SIIS driver is finished. PS. Even when patent litigation is settled it isn't easy to figure out who "won" until the 10-K's can be analyzed: post-settlement statements by everyone are often part of the agreement. That this has something of a Motorola/Hitachi feel to it is as far as I'd speculate.