From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 3 17:54:32 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C73106564A; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 17:54:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@experts-exchange.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [72.29.183.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B75D8FC19; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 17:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4877A2B6A; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 09:54:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=e-e.com; h= user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :content-type:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:subject :from:from:date:date:received:received:received; s=ee; t= 1291398872; x=1293213272; bh=AMHPhypQqdnwVU2hXQotRsGNE6kypdC4MHt XqIrFyrE=; b=rwwvajZQswNjeiGUGVcerV2N6GC5RLLBCf7qsnvQNp9rsAWcuny KNvwCB1+UTn13sJi08kx4cZ0i+wNfuS2QH++jgze1ZV5nv9e502gvZI/ZsewCkFk dyMHwoLTNcjnAtBUDwsWiO/kWIZ0sg2Vy/+MCgsGRQRj+8AWpy5uQfek= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at experts-exchange.com Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ds1MF9ez2RXQ; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 09:54:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from experts-exchange.com (unknown [192.168.103.122]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C643C7A2B67; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 09:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (nullmailer pid 11186 invoked by uid 1001); Fri, 03 Dec 2010 17:51:30 -0000 Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 09:51:30 -0800 From: Jason Helfman To: Warren Block Message-ID: <20101203175130.GA36869@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: <201012020855.33264.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: John McCall , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: typo in manual first paragraph X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 17:54:32 -0000 On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 08:41:35PM -0700, Warren Block thus spake: >On Thu, 2 Dec 2010, John Baldwin wrote: > >> On Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:37:16 am Sergey Kandaurov wrote: >>> On 2 December 2010 06:14, John McCall wrote: >>>> I think you mean "broad"..........not board >>>> >>>> ............"Working through this section requires little more than the >>>> desire to explore, and the ability to take on board new concepts as they are >>>> introduced. >>> >>> I'm not a native speaker, but "take on board" in this context >>> stands for me as "understand, take in mind, accept smth.". >> >> I agree, but given that it is a bit idiomatic and confusing, it might be best >> to reword the sentence. I would say s/take on board/tackle/, but I'm not >> sure 'tackle' is any less confusing. I do find the current wording a bit >> awkard, but 'take on board' is a bit 'stronger' than simply 'understand' as >> it implies that the task requires some work (e.g. taking on a new task at a >> job). Maybe 'embrace' would work. > >The original is confusing because "take on" and "on board" conflict. Insert humble opinion: I've brought this up on #bsdports, but I will relay it here. I would say "take on" vs. "take on board" isn't an issue of conflict. However, "take on board" adds no additional clarity to the phrase "take on". This is how I would re-word it: "Working through this section requires little more than a desire to explore, and ability to take on new concepts as they are introduced." > >"Accept" isn't a terrible replacement. > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html