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Date:      Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:01:52 -0700
From:      "Thomas Ching" <tching@arraynetworks.net>
To:        "Julian Elischer" <julian@elischer.org>
Cc:        freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   RE: Supermicro H8DAE-2 support
Message-ID:  <BBBF2B6511353C4CAABD39BFAC8CB4F1016045EF@Exchange.arraynetworks.net>
In-Reply-To: <470E6FC3.3080208@elischer.org>

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Hi, Julian:

Thanks for the useful info; I think I will start with Vanilla 4.5 on the =
board first to see if it's even possible. If no luck, I will try 4.11.=20

Regarding the changes, I am actually new to the company and I do not =
know all the history and details, all I am told is "massive".

I think mostly are on the TCP stack. I will learn more about it in the =
next few weeks.

Again appreciate your fast responses and ideas/suggestions.

Thomas

-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Elischer [mailto:julian@elischer.org]=20
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:48 AM
To: Thomas Ching
Cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: Supermicro H8DAE-2 support

Thomas Ching wrote:
> Hi, Julian:
>=20
> Thanks for your response. Our existing products (which heavily changed =
the kernel code) were developed based on the 4.5 kernel that's why we =
need to stick with it for a short while.
>=20
> Is there anything I can learn on the tricks you mentioned in your =
email? I am open to examine all possibilities.
>=20
> Thanks
> Thomas
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Elischer [mailto:julian@elischer.org]=20
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:36 AM
> To: Thomas Ching
> Cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: Re: Supermicro H8DAE-2 support
>=20
> Thomas Ching wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am a newbie to this so I apologize if I did not follow any protocol
>> that I am supposed to.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am porting FreeBSD 4.5 to this board and I am just wondering if
>> anyone has any information that I can read. I am really concerned
>> about given how new the board is and 4.5 would probably not run on
>> it.
>>
>=20
> Ok so explain why it needs to be 4.5?
>=20
> Assuming it does, you may be able to run it straight away
> or at worst with just a couple of tweeks,
> but there are tricks you may not know about to avoid running new =
hardware
> on old systems.
>=20
>>
>> It has to be 4.5 for legacy reasons.
>=20
> why?
>=20
> explain this in detail.

It's a pitty you have kernel changes because if you had just userland =
requirements,
I'd run a 6.2 system and make a 4.5 jail to match the apps.

Since you have kernel changes that won't work. however I'd still suggest =

moving up to at least 4.11.
The changes between 4.5 and 4.11 were not that great, but a lot of newer =
hardware
was supported. Your kernel changes will nearly all apply with minimal =
change=20
(if any at all), but you may have a chance to get some newer hardware =
working easier.
There are also security and bug fixes.. in fact I'd go for a RELENG_4
system (i.e. from the 4 branch but after 4.11..  you compile it =
yourself).

what KIND of changes? (some changes can be ported forward to 5.x really =
easy too.
It depends on what kind they are and where they are.






>=20
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
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