Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:19:05 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com> To: marino@freebsd.org, Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who was the mental genius Message-ID: <BB7A6CF4679501D482E16DC6@localhost> In-Reply-To: <5391611A.3090406@marino.st> References: <C38D07C36CF649C84A3B9362@localhost> <20140605211831.GA90310@spectrum.skysmurf.nl> <D2EE1900E54F5DC324E503D3@localhost> <5390E62E.6090807@madpilot.net> <6CEF0183772C97582B196466@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <539130B3.9030604@freebsd.org> <8CA324878D330942AB8AE0B3@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <5391611A.3090406@marino.st>
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--On June 6, 2014 at 8:35:06 AM +0200 John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st> wrote: > On 6/6/2014 05:37, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> Something like that would have been more than adequate. As I pointed >> out, the warning you get about pkgng and the 9/1/2014 deadline is >> perfect. It's been there for a couple of months, and it pops up ever >> time you do a port. If you miss that and don't convert, you don't have >> anyone but yourself to blame. > > Which is exactly the same case with you and the 8.3 EOL. > If your business relies involves server maintenance, it's entirely your > responsibility to track EOL. How somebody with "senior" in their job > title is looking to blame everyone else for failing something so basic > is rich. > > You say semantics isn't important? You say 8.3 isn't "old"? It may > not be old compared to a dog, but it reached its published end-of-life. > Any expectation you have about support after EOL where probably forged > by watching Microsoft support XP. That's not the model to expect. > Install some mirrors in your house. > I have no idea why you've decided to assume the role of preacher and tell me what to do, but I can assure you that you are completely ignorant of the circumstances behind my complaints. They have absolutely nothing to do with my professional position. Regarding your comment about EOL, one thing has been almost constant throughout my professional career. When a system goes EOL it isn't deliberately broken by the vendor. The system will happily hum along and function for years after EOL without problems. Breaking something as vital as the ports system without proper warning is not a way to win converts to your platform or to retain those who have used it for a long time. Again. I think FreeBSD is a great OS. It's the only Unix platform I use (and I've tried them all, trust me.) It saddens me to see it losing market share because of tone deaf development processes that ignore the end user. If I didn't give a shit, I wouldn't have complained. Your reference to Microsoft is laughable. I haven't done support or admin work on a Windows platform in more than sixteen years. As for your idiotic advice, not everyone in the world has the wherewithal to "install some mirrors in your house", but my recommendation to you would be to look in the ones at your house before you ignorantly criticize others. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell
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