From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 18:20:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8822216A4CE for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 18:20:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx.tele-kom.ru (mx.tele-kom.ru [213.80.148.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5987143D2D for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 18:20:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doublef@tele-kom.ru) Received: (qmail 26746 invoked by uid 555); 16 Sep 2004 18:21:52 -0000 Received: from shark (213.80.149.133) by t-k.ru with TeleMail/2 id 1095358900-26369 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Sep 22:21:40 2004 +0400 (MSD) Received: by shark (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DFEA9207; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:13:47 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 22:13:47 +0400 From: Sergey Zaharchenko To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20040916181346.GB301@shark.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: Sergey Zaharchenko , Giorgos Keramidas , mailing lists at MacTutor , Sergey Zaharchenko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <414990F7.3000101@grokking.org> <20040916150113.GA585@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <20040916173113.GB1138@shark.localdomain> <585281C6-0807-11D9-9096-000A95775140@mactutor.biz> <20040916175303.GA19271@igloo.linux.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aM3YZ0Iwxop3KEKx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040916175303.GA19271@igloo.linux.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Listening-To: /Machina_Vremeni/Ves_mir_soshel_s_uma cc: mailing lists at MacTutor cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what are the pros and cons of running in single user? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 18:20:44 -0000 --aM3YZ0Iwxop3KEKx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 08:53:03PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas probably wrote: > On 2004-09-16 13:39, mailing lists at MacTutor wrote: > >On Sep 16, 2004, at 1:31 PM, Sergey Zaharchenko wrote: > >>On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 06:01:13PM +0300, > >>Giorgos Keramidas probably wrote: > >>>On 2004-09-16 09:11, Ed Budd wrote: > >>>>er...doesn't "single user" mode mean no networking? My understanding = is > >>>>that this is really only for maintenance (ie. make installworld, > >>>>etc.), > >>> > >>>Well, you can always bring up the network interfaces manually ;-) > >> > >>Actually, that's what /etc/netstart is for. > > > > Now might be a good time for me to point out that I'm learning some > > subtle and useful things about system startup that is helping me think > > about how I might customize system start up if I go that route. >=20 > Hmmm. Don't get me wrong, but you shouldn't "go that route". Other than I thought `that route' =3D=3D `customize system start up' according to the scoping rules:) > purely educational and system recovery reasons there's no real gain in > getting your system up in single user mode and manually doing what the > startup scripts will do automagically for you when properly configured. True, single-user mode is not intended to be the normal way of booting up a system. It's a bit like having to start up your heart, lungs, etc. when you get up --- if you forget something, things would go wrong:). Any security gained from single user mode can be achieved in multi-user mode with proper configuration. Still, stuff learnt for purely education reasons sometimes helps. >=20 > Regards, > Giorgos >=20 --=20 DoubleF Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature. -- Rich Kulawiec --aM3YZ0Iwxop3KEKx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBSdfYwo7hT/9lVdwRAtsSAJ9pGll5XmeCskmW44ldSdDSP7BPdgCfcqSy e6A98Ocm+MCtUwirY+UcASU= =RWGI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aM3YZ0Iwxop3KEKx--