From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 11 21:24:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE05106564A; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:24:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681338FC18; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from porto.starpoint.kiev.ua (porto-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.100]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id XAA07747; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:24:39 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by porto.starpoint.kiev.ua with esmtp (Exim 4.34 (FreeBSD)) id 1RZqsw-000FF7-U4; Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:24:38 +0200 Message-ID: <4EE51F96.30202@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:24:38 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111206 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lev@FreeBSD.org References: <76373418.20111209141018@serebryakov.spb.ru> <1406787882.20111211132717@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4EE500A2.4050005@FreeBSD.org> <283532167.20111212011249@serebryakov.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <283532167.20111212011249@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: undefined Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD/amd64 on machine without ACPI BIOS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:24:41 -0000 on 11/12/2011 23:12 Lev Serebryakov said the following: > Hello, Andriy. > You wrote 11 декабря 2011 г., 23:12:34: > >>>> Is it true? Is it possible to have FreeBSD/amd64 without ACPI? >>> It seems, that "device mptable" in kernel config helps. >>> Why is it not in GENERIC kernel? >> Just a guess, maybe because GENERIC kernel is for "generic" hardware. > Oh, yes, and "Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters" or "EISA AHA1742 > family" is very generic in our days, and "NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, > DS8390 cards" newtwork cards too, to name some random picks from > GENERIC. > > Generic hardware in our days are CPU, ACPI, APIC, keyboard/console, > AHCI, USB, HDA audio and Realtek 1G NIC. Period. Even Intel NICs > are not so generic (and even Intel itself solder Realtek on lot of their > motherboards). > > Servers? Ok, Marvell and Intel NICs + bunch (say, 3-4) SATA/SAS > controllers. Again, no all these wide-SCSI and 10Mbit NICs. > > Hey, we still have "cpu I486_CPU" in i386 config! How THIS could be > generic in 2012!? > Looks like my guess is wrong :) -- Andriy Gapon