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Date:      Tue, 15 Mar 2022 15:38:58 +0300
From:      Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com>
To:        joe mcguckin <joe@via.net>
Cc:        freebsd-fs <freebsd-fs@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Can't see USB disk device
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On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 10:58 AM Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <
m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 5:56 AM joe mcguckin <joe@via.net> wrote:
>
>> FreeeBSD 12.3-Release
>>
>> I=E2=80=99m trying to mount a 3.5=E2=80=9D SATA drive mounted in an exte=
rnal enclosure
>> with a USB interface,  formatted with NTFS. When I plug in the USB disk,=
 I
>> do not see the device. All I see from the log is:
>>
>>     ugen7.2: <CalDigit AVPro2 Hub> at usbus7
>>
>> I assume the CALDIGIT enclosure has a hub chip to accomodate all the
>> different interfaces (USBA, USBC, mini USB).
>>
>> Although FreeBSD won=E2=80=99t mount the disk automatically (I=E2=80=99l=
l be using the
>> NTFS fuse fs for that), I=E2=80=99d expect to see a log message where Fr=
eeBSD sees
>> the SATA/USB drive.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
---------
>
>
>
>> Shouldn't a hub be transparent and the mass storage USB device be
>> enumerated?
>>
>> I should mention that this works flawlessly on the Mac=E2=80=A6
>>
>
>
>
>
> In Fedora Linux KDE , attaching and using a USB  NTFS  hard disk is only
> selecting it from the Dolphin file manager when it is attached and
> doing whatever you want with it .
>
> Only so much , no more anything ( except by selecting
> ( such disks to be mounted automatically when they are attached )
> from "Settings" related menus only one time  ) .
> I am not using anything other than KDE .
>
>
> With my best wishes ,
>
>
> Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
>
>
>
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>
>


If you are using KDE in FreeBSD or you can use it ,
it will be possible to use mount the USB NTFS hard disks when
they are attached .
Perhaps there may be some adjustments to "Settings" related menu .
I have not used FreeBSD for a long time ( perhaps since 9.2 ) because in my
computers FreeBSD was not working at sufficient speed .
I  think other FreeBSD users will help you if you ask .



As a response to my one of the message , they explained to me how to
mount hard disk in user land without root privileges .
I am sorry that I have deleted all of my previous messages due to my error =
.
I am not sure what message it was .
If you ask , they will respond to you also .


The suggested  program for Linux was the following :


whereis udisks2
udisks2
/usr/libexec/udisks2
/usr/libexec/udisks2/udisks2
/usr/libexec/udisks2/udisksd
whereis udisks*
whereis udisk*
udisks
man udisks
udisks --dump
udisks --mount /dev/sde1 /pack



There should be another possibility to use  "devd" .

If you search the following phrases in Google one by one :

freebsd devd
freebsd devd usb

freebsd devfs
freebsd devfs usb

you may find sufficient links to study ...



Mehmet Erol Sanliturk





>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> Joe McGuckin
>> ViaNet Communications
>>
>> joe@via.net
>> 650-207-0372 cell
>> 650-213-1302 office
>> 650-969-2124 fax
>>
>>
>>
>>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 15, 2022=
 at 10:58 AM Mehmet Erol Sanliturk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m.e.sanliturk@gmai=
l.com">m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=
=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 15=
, 2022 at 5:56 AM joe mcguckin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:joe@via.net" target=3D=
"_blank">joe@via.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><div>FreeeBSD 12.3-Release<div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=
=99m trying to mount a 3.5=E2=80=9D SATA drive mounted in an external enclo=
sure with a USB interface, =C2=A0formatted with NTFS. When I plug in the US=
B disk, I do not see the device. All I see from the log is:</div><div><br><=
/div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-family:Menlo;background-co=
lor:rgb(255,255,255)">ugen7.2: &lt;CalDigit AVPro2 Hub&gt; at usbus7</span>=
</div><div><br></div><div><div>
<span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px;font-variant-lig=
atures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;line-height:normal"><span styl=
e=3D"border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-fami=
ly:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-c=
aps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing=
:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:=
normal;word-spacing:0px"><div>I assume the CALDIGIT enclosure has a hub chi=
p to accomodate all the different interfaces (USBA, USBC, mini USB).</div><=
div><br></div><div>Although FreeBSD won=E2=80=99t mount the disk automatica=
lly (I=E2=80=99ll be using the NTFS fuse fs for that), I=E2=80=99d expect t=
o see a log message where FreeBSD sees the SATA/USB drive.</div><div><br></=
div></span></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></=
div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:large">-----------------------------------------------------------------=
-----------------</div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div><span style=3D"border-collapse:sepa=
rate;border-spacing:0px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asi=
an:normal;line-height:normal"><span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;borde=
r-spacing:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font=
-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:=
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-ind=
ent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div></div=
><div>Shouldn&#39;t a hub be transparent and the mass storage USB device be=
 enumerated?</div><div><br></div><div>I should mention that this works flaw=
lessly on the Mac=E2=80=A6</div></span></span></div></div></div></blockquot=
e><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div sty=
le=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">In Fedora Linux KDE , =
attaching and using a USB=C2=A0 NTFS=C2=A0 hard disk is only</div><div styl=
e=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">selecting it from the D=
olphin file manager when it is attached and <br></div><div style=3D"font-fa=
mily:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">doing whatever you want with it .<b=
r></div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large">Only so much , no more anything ( except by selecting <br></div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">( such disks to =
be mounted automatically when they are attached ) <br></div><div style=3D"f=
ont-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">from &quot;Settings&quot; rel=
ated menus only one time=C2=A0 ) .</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:large"></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif=
;font-size:large">I am not using anything other than KDE .</div><div style=
=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div style=3D"=
font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div style=3D"font=
-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">With my best wishes ,</div><div =
style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div styl=
e=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div style=3D=
"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">Mehmet Erol Sanliturk </div=
></div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:ta=
homa,sans-serif;font-size:large">------------------------------------------=
----------------------------------------</div><br></div></div></div></div><=
/blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D=
"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">If =
you are using KDE in FreeBSD or you can use it ,</div><div style=3D"font-fa=
mily:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">it will be =
possible to use  mount the USB NTFS hard disks when</div><div style=3D"font=
-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">they are=
 attached .</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:larg=
e" class=3D"gmail_default">Perhaps there may be some adjustments to &quot;S=
ettings&quot; related menu .</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-ser=
if;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">I have not used FreeBSD for a l=
ong time ( perhaps since 9.2 ) because in my</div><div style=3D"font-family=
:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">computers FreeB=
SD was not working at sufficient speed .</div><div style=3D"font-family:tah=
oma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">I=C2=A0 think other=
 FreeBSD users will help you if you ask .<br></div><br></div><div><br></div=
><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:=
large" class=3D"gmail_default">As a response to my one of the message , the=
y explained to me how to <br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-se=
rif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">mount hard disk in user land w=
ithout root privileges .</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">I am sorry that I have deleted all =
of my previous messages due to my error .</div><div style=3D"font-family:ta=
homa,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">I am not sure what=
 message it was . </div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:large" class=3D"gmail_default">If you ask , they will respond to you als=
o .</div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,san=
s-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">The suggested=C2=A0 progra=
m for Linux was the following :</div><br></div><div><br></div><div>whereis =
udisks2<br>udisks2<br>/usr/libexec/udisks2<br>/usr/libexec/udisks2/udisks2<=
br>/usr/libexec/udisks2/udisksd<br>whereis udisks*<br>whereis udisk*<br>udi=
sks<br>man udisks<br>udisks --dump<br>udisks --mount /dev/sde1 /pack<br></d=
iv><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-f=
amily:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">There shou=
ld be another possibility to use=C2=A0 &quot;devd&quot; .</div><div style=
=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">=
<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" clas=
s=3D"gmail_default">If you search the following phrases in Google one by on=
e :</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=
=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">freebsd devd</div><div style=3D"font=
-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">freebsd =
devd usb<br></div><br></div><div>freebsd devfs<br></div><div>freebsd devfs =
usb</div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">you may find sufficient links to stu=
dy ...</div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style=3D"font=
-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">Mehmet E=
rol Sanliturk</div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:la=
rge" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,san=
s-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default"></div><br></div><div><br><=
/div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div><br></div></div=
><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><d=
iv><div><span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px;font-var=
iant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;line-height:normal"><s=
pan style=3D"border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);f=
ont-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-v=
ariant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:normal;letter=
-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit=
e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Joe</div><div><br></div><div>Joe McGuckin</div><div>ViaNet Commu=
nications</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"mailto:joe@via.net" target=3D=
"_blank">joe@via.net</a></div><div>650-207-0372 cell</div><div>650-213-1302=
 office</div><div>650-969-2124 fax</div><div><br></div><br></span></span>
</div>

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