From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 4 08:34:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040571065672 for ; Thu, 4 Feb 2010 08:34:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-hackers@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5A08FC1A for ; Thu, 4 Feb 2010 08:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NcxAi-0007SZ-8u for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:34:44 +0100 Received: from CPE00134609fbfb-CM0013718690da.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ([99.226.150.73]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:34:44 +0100 Received: from jasonspiro4 by CPE00134609fbfb-CM0013718690da.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:34:44 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org From: Jason Spiro Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 08:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <4B315A5A.6040101@delphij.net> <4B31671C.8090005@delphij.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 99.226.150.73 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.7) Gecko/2009032803 Iceweasel/3.0.6 (Debian-3.0.6-1)) Sender: news Subject: Re: Renaming "killall" and forever symlinking the old name to the new name X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 08:34:51 -0000 Jason Spiro gmail.com> writes: [snip] > > You could rename killall to something else, and update the manpage to show the > new name, then symlink or hard link "killall" to the new name forever. This > would encourage people to use the new name, but it would never force them to. > > Xin, what do you think? Since Xin and I CC'ed each other so often in this thread, Gmail automatically added us to each others' Gtalk instant-messenger contact lists. Since it'd been more than a month and Xin still hadn't replied to this message, I instant messaged him the idea and asked him what he thought. He replied that, in his opinion, this new idea is pointless: nobody would notice the renaming, and it would just cause confusion. I asked, what if the tool would show a hint onscreen if you called it using the old name? He said no. He said people can just use pkill. I hope Eitan Adler's patch[1], which adds a "verbose" option to pkill, will get accepted, and that a similar patch will get accepted into the Linux pkill, maintained by Albert Calahan. ^ [1]. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.devel.hackers/38636