From owner-freebsd-current Sun Dec 27 17:56:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06462 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:56:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06456 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:56:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA26121; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:25:29 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id MAA29819; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:25:31 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981228122531.C12346@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:25:31 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Thanks, Core Team References: <19981228112851.Y12346@freebie.lemis.com> <12439.914809537@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <12439.914809537@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Sun, Dec 27, 1998 at 05:45:37PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 27 December 1998 at 17:45:37 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> 1. LKMs are gone. >> 2. This was decided by the core team. >> 3. Nobody else was informed. > > Actually, while some of the recent events came as much as a surprise > to core as anyone else, the transition from LKMs to KLD modules is not > and should not come as a surprise to anyone. We've been talking about > it for ages now in -current Sure, but that's not what I'm talking about. I've been gathering a lot of information about KLDs, and I've been meaning to move some time. But until this morning there was nothing to indicate that LKMs were going away in a hurry. It's interesting that recent events surprised you too, though. > and the only way you could possibly fail to be informed about this > transition would be if you had simply deleted every mail received > from -current for at least the last 3 months. This would be the same way that you could possibly fail to notice that I took a lively part in the discussions. That's not the point. Do *you* know how to get kld symbols into the kernel debugger? Peter gave me a pointer, but as they say, ``some assembly needed''. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message