From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 11 16:05:53 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5EA37B401; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (207-173-238-220.bras01.elk.ca.frontiernet.net [207.173.238.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC74243F3F; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from tagalong (unknown [165.107.42.110]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E47B6EE630; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <011701c3306e$00ab2da0$6e2a6ba5@lc.ca.gov> From: "Drew Tomlinson" To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:05:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0114_01C33033.540C1850" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Vinum & Firewire? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 23:05:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0114_01C33033.540C1850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wondering if you've had any time to look at this? If I am a nusiance, please tell me and I'll go away. If you're still extremely busy, I'll continue to wait patiently. Thanks, Drew ------=_NextPart_000_0114_01C33033.540C1850 Content-Type: text/plain; name="greg.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="greg.txt" > On Wednesday, 21 May 2003 at 16:01:17 -0700, Drew Tomlinson > wrote: >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Drew Tomlinson" >> To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" ; "FreeBSD=20 >> Questions" >> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 6:29 AM >> >> Did you receive this note? > > Yes. > >> I don't mean to be a pest but was hoping you might have some >> other suggestions on what to try next. I'd really like to >> get this working before I restore all of my data. > > Sorry for the delay. When I get messages which have been > messed up like this one, I usually tidy them up so that I can > read them. This takes time, and they end up at the back of > the queue. I'm currently very busy, so it's taking longer. > As soon as I have time, I'll tidyit up and reply to it. I=92m sorry that the format was mangled. I am forced to use=20 Microsoft Outlook at work which is where I write most of my email. Hopefully you will find this version much more readable. I appreciate any assistance you may give when you have time. Thanks, Drew >> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" >>> To: "Drew Tomlinson" >>> Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" >>> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:49 PM >>> >>> On Thursday, 15 May 2003 at 15:18:03 -0700, Drew Tomlinson >>> wrote: >>>>> I have created a large vinum volume consisting of one=20 >>>>> concatenated plex. The volume uses 3 drives. Two of the >>>>> three are IDE drives mounted in the system case and=20 >>>>> attached to the IDE controller on the motherboard. A >>>>> volume made from these two drives functioned flawlessly >>>>> for over a year. >>>>> >>>>> Then the volume finally filled so I added another IDE=20 >>>>> drive. However I did not have room in the system case >>>>> so I put the drive in a firewire enclosure and added a >>>>> firewire card to the system. Everything seems to work >>>>> fine once the system is up and running. >>>>> >>>>> The problem is that upon boot, the firewire drive is not >>>>> available to vinum as indicated in this 'list' command: >>>>> >>>>> D ftp2 State: referenced Device Avail: 0/0 = MB >>>>> >>>>> Which, of course, leads to a 'corrupt' plex and 'crashed' subdisk: >>>>> >>>>> P ftp.p0 C State: corrupt Subdisks: 3 Size: 223 = GB >>>>> S ftp.p0.s2 State: crashed PO: 149 GB Size: 74 = GB >>>>> >>>>> I suspect the cause is that the firewire drive is not >>>>> ready at the time vinum starts. >>>> >>>> That's one possibility. >>>> >>>>> Can anyone confirm or deny this? >>>> >>>> I haven't used firewire at all, so I can't say. But it >>>> would seem that if you stop Vinum and start it when the >>>> firewire drive is up, you should be able to confirm this >>>> yourself by restarting and seeing what happens. >>> >>> I tried this. Because my /usr is also a vinum volume, I >>> rebooted with 'boot -s' then issued a start command. Same >>> error with ftp2. >>> >>> Next, I used the create command to redefine the drive, >>> stopped and started the plex and subdisks, and then mounted >>> the volume. Wrote some data to it to test. Volume was=20 >>> working. >>> >>> I rebooted again with 'boot -s' but the problem persisted. >>> ftp2 remains in a 'referenced 0/0MB' state. >>> >>>>> Is there a way to add a delay in the boot process to=20 >>>>> allow the firewire drive extra time? >>>> >>>> I'm sure there is, but first we should determine whether >>>> that's really the problem. >>> >>> Agreed. Thanks for keeping me focused. >>> >>>>> Should I not use vinum with firewire devices? >>> >>>> That would be a workaround. It should definitely work. >>> >>> I'll be out of town for the next two days but am happy to >>> test and provide info when I return. I still consider myself >>> a 'newbie' so do not be afraid to ask obvious questions. >>> >>> Thanks for your help! >>> >>> Drew ------=_NextPart_000_0114_01C33033.540C1850--