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Date:      Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:41:49 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Joseph Mallett <jmallett@newgold.net>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        Bzdik BSD <bzdik@yahoo.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, xMach Core Mailing List <xMach-core@xMach.org>
Subject:   Re: Clash of Titans - Tale of two Morons
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSO.4.21.0104061838190.13775-100000@aphex.newgold.net>
In-Reply-To: <200104062237.PAA05307@usr01.primenet.com>

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I've seen Linus knock Mach before, seen him knock Minix, etc. Andy
Tannenbaum was right to want to fail Linus. Linux has worse desiogn
problems than Mach, and does more than just make up its own, it creates
entirely new bad design concepts.

But anyway, there's lots of times in the past where he's said things like
this, and he loses arguments because he simply doesn't know enough to
defend what he says. I think maybe a little too much "free beer", that, or
he didn't quite grasp "that whole os d&i thing" to begin with.

Mach had a bad design for the slower hardware it was originally designed
on, this is true, but today, it isn't half bad.

Though I suppose I am every bit as biased as Linus is, but at least I'll
defend myself if need be.

Anyway, just my $0.02

/joseph

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On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Terry Lambert wrote:

> > Linus vs Stevie
> > 
> > http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5080813,00.html
> 
> The funniest part about this is that, with this statement,
> Linus has become to MacOS X what Andy Tannebaum was to
> Linux.
> 
> Next, we'll probably hear Linus talk about how he "would give
> the programmers involved an ``F'' if they were my students".
> 
> Heh.
> 
> 
> 					Terry Lambert
> 					terry@lambert.org
> ---
> Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
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