From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Apr 9 7: 3:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.vnet.net (smtp2.vnet.net [166.82.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E6E15285; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:03:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp2.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05783; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18477; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.2/8.6.9) id KAA32326; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:01:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199904091401.KAA32326@lakes.dignus.com> To: handy@lambic.physics.montana.edu, scrappy@hub.org Subject: Re: ATTENTION PLEASE: g77 in base system. Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, des@flood.ping.uio.no, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@NUXI.com In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Brian Handy wrote: > > > On 9 Apr 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > > > >> [4 people said "YES! Add g77!"] > > > > >I beg your pardon? You're adding g77 to the system because you know of > > >four people who would find it useful? Where's the logic in that? > > > > Well, statistically speaking, that's a bunch of "ayes" and no "noes". > > Lots of things happen via implicit acceptance. (I was one of the people > > who spoke up in favor of this after David mentioned this.) > > > > >If you do add it to the base system, make it optional. I don't care if > > >it defaults to on, as long as I have the option to turn it off. > > > > This doesn't seem unreasonable. (I also really like Chuck's idea of > > adding gcj in the same light.) > > Geez, and I used to think it was only the commercial OSs that had a > problem with bloat and creeping featurisms ... :( Chuck's idea makes more > sense...how many programs does the average system run that needs a fortran > compiler? *raised eyebrow* Personally, I'm not sure g77 is needed, but let me play devil's advocate here and turn your question around: "How many programs does the average system not run because the system doesn't have a FORTRAN compiler?" That seems to be a more pertinent question... and - a good bit more difficult to answer. - Dave Rivers - (My personal preference is to put it in there, with an option to disable it in "make world". ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message