From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 17 07:57:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E7416A4CE for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:57:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (mproxy.gmail.com [216.239.56.240]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AD943D5A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:57:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from galaxy.ranger@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id u22so106854cwc for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 00:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.98.5 with SMTP id v5mr107885cwb; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 00:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.11.98.65 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Sep 2004 00:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4a1299a404091700573b81b6cd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 00:57:34 -0700 From: Fargo Holiday To: Mark Russell In-Reply-To: <20040917095951.W1610@juana.isp.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4a64a1b8040907214468a3877c@mail.gmail.com> <20040908081626.GB597@cell.sick.ru> <4a1299a404091423367b948709@mail.gmail.com> <4a64a1b8040916011442844e6@mail.gmail.com> <20040917095951.W1610@juana.isp.net.au> cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org cc: Gleb Smirnoff cc: Glenn Thomas Subject: Re: strange pppoe/adsl issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fargo Holiday List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 07:57:35 -0000 unfortunately i wasn't terribly involved with anything but customer site hardware, though i do recall that we used redback equipment at the isp end. actual line vendors and switching varied depending on the region. just as Mark stated we, eventually, switched over to customer hardware with pppoe solutions embedded to eliminate the thousands of man hours required to walk users through trying different setups until one meshed with their system, the telco, and our stuff. could it be something with the way that the pppoe client authenticates, perhaps authentication is expected at regular intervals and when that dosen't happen it denies traffic? i mean, pppoe is fairly standardized from what i understand, much like ethernet over atm, but i could see where different clients might have different ideas about when to send authentication. where i worked we could view connection logs for specific users, perhaps you could get someone to send you a log with one of the setups that work, say XP, that shows what was transpiring for a specific interval, then get a log of what happens when your FreeBSD setup is connected until it drops, then compare the two. just a thought. sadly i'm several years out of DSL support, so i don't recall a lot of specifics. ok, i'm not really all that sad to be away from a phone support position, but you understand. in any case, good night, and i really hope someone can resolve the issue.