From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 22 15:26:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A671E8E3 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from feld.me (unknown [IPv6:2607:f4e0:100:300::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81656D68 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:26:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; s=blargle; h=In-Reply-To:Message-Id:From:Mime-Version:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:Content-Type; bh=3e2wB5Elmx3X0/KQltluoCSz/nMn6XSj22/2HZRlSk4=; b=Z0uLYJR6S+FmoiWT2Xo59+mIXkjgcsZompOzM6o2lMkKPO20NrFfyUfR6FrSopNJt2HLkDeAZ5yA8XcRJnQhc1/GPXeH4YfLCEP6Kv4CH5dfT+xPaAalWzOfgkSlkhnQ; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mwi1.coffeenet.org) by feld.me with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TxfkM-000M2F-8N; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:26:46 -0600 Received: from feld@feld.me by mwi1.coffeenet.org (Archiveopteryx 3.1.4) with esmtpsa id 1358868399-62102-17996/5/1; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:26:39 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: Warren Block Subject: Re: RFC: Suggesting ZFS "best practices" in FreeBSD References: <314B600D-E8E6-4300-B60F-33D5FA5A39CF@sarenet.es> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:26:39 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Mark Felder Message-Id: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (FreeBSD) Cc: FreeBSD Filesystems X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:26:47 -0000 On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:04:42 -0600, Warren Block wrote: > I'm a proponent of using various types of labels, but my impression > after a recent experience was that ZFS metadata was enough to identify > the drives even if they were moved around. That is, ZFS bare metadata > on a drive with no other partitioning or labels. > Is that incorrect? If you have an enclosure with 48 drives can you be confident which drive is failing using only the ZFS metadata?