From owner-freebsd-security Mon Sep 27 19:58:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FEE15723 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:58:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from [204.68.178.39] (helo=softweyr.com) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11VnTQ-00026E-00; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:58:37 -0600 Message-ID: <37F02EED.A959E352@softweyr.com> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:58:53 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Newton Cc: "Scott I. Remick" , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help me win the MS-Proxy/ipfw war References: <199909280012.JAA13329@atdot.dotat.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Newton wrote: > > Scott I. Remick wrote: > > > Any advice to a small-time network admin for a small (32 employees) company > > that is stuck in the MS_WAY = ONLY_WAY mindset? We are overdue for a > > firewall but the PHB wants NT/MS-Proxy installed, while I'm arguing for > > FreeBSD/ipfw instead. > > Go in after work one night and install FreeBSD. Once your firewall > is a fait accomplis, inertia will help you get your way. > > [ on the other hand, if management is that dense you might want to > "solve" the problem by changing employers - I doubt the boss' > belligerence is confined to FreeBSD, if you see what I mean... ] I'll second this motion. Vote with your feet. You're not likely to "englighten" an MSCP. (Isn't that Mediocresoft Certifiable Pricks or something?) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message