From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 20 05:28:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: fs@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F0216A402; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.cecil@nokia.com) Received: from mgw-ext14.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [131.228.20.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC97713C44B; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.cecil@nokia.com) Received: from esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh108.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.145]) by mgw-ext14.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id l3K5SE6V023636; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:28:46 +0300 Received: from siebh102.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.30.195.29]) by esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Apr 2007 07:52:28 +0300 Received: from syebe101.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.30.128.65]) by siebh102.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:52:20 +0800 Received: from [172.30.67.180] ([172.30.67.180]) by syebe101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:52:18 +1000 Message-ID: <46284701.8080107@nokia.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:52:17 +1000 From: David Cecil User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rick-freebsd@kiwi-computer.com References: <20070418104155.GA31727@eschew.pusen.org> <86hcrdlqak.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070418144103.GB31727@eschew.pusen.org> <20070418155156.GB20441@keira.kiwi-computer.com> <20070418180200.GA32061@eschew.pusen.org> <86odlku5xg.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070419173316.GA57227@keira.kiwi-computer.com> <4627EC02.8070103@nokia.com> <4627F7BE.5090606@mawer.org> <20070420004131.GA65715@keira.kiwi-computer.com> In-Reply-To: <20070420004131.GA65715@keira.kiwi-computer.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2007 04:52:18.0467 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC746F30:01C78307] X-eXpurgate-Category: 1/4 X-eXpurgate-ID: 149371::070420082849-5C0A6BB0-1AF2FD9E/0-0/0-17 X-Nokia-AV: Clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: fs@freebsd.org, piso@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS + replacing failing hard-drive. X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:28:52 -0000 Just to be clear, I've seen these errors for SATA and PATA drives. Dave ext Rick C. Petty wrote: > On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 09:14:06AM +1000, Antony Mawer wrote: > >> Just another "me too". I've seen (S)ATA-related problems on 6.x (mostly >> 6.0) based machines, in some cases these appear to have been physical >> drive errors, but I haven't been able to verify each individual case. I >> don't know if quality control is sorely lacking on newer SATA drives or >> if it's something else... it has caused me to question whether or not >> there might be a driver/OS level issue... >> > > I'm reluctant to point fingers at the drives (although this is often a good > first guess).. I have access to a few dozen disks from two separate SATA > batches. I've noticed that when the identical drives are on the same > Promise controller, FreeBSD reports DMA timeouts occasionally. I've never > seen anything similar on Ubuntu, although since the timeouts are > unpredictable it's possible there may be throughput differences between the > two OSes. > > -- Rick C. Petty > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-fs@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-fs > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-fs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Software Engineer Secure and Mobile Connectivity Enterprise Solutions Nokia +61 7 5553 8307 (office) +61 412 728 222 (cell)