From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 7 18:39:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16164 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:39:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16157 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:39:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA21389; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:08:05 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id NAA95209; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:08:13 +1030 (CST) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:08:13 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Chris Browning Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Printed man pages (was: Looking for the best webmaster.) Message-ID: <19990108130813.M92409@freebie.lemis.com> References: <3.0.3.32.19990105174116.006b8694@silk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Chris Browning on Tue, Jan 05, 1999 at 11:52:46PM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 5 January 1999 at 23:52:46 -0500, Chris Browning wrote: > On 06-Jan-99 Eddie Lawhead wrote: >> At 12:03 PM 1/6/99 +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: >>> On Tuesday, 5 January 1999 at 19:08:31 -0600, David Kelly wrote: >>>> Wolfram Schneider writes: >>>>> On 1999-01-05 14:32:27 -0600, James Moore wrote: >>>> [...] >>>>> You need a postscript printer to print the manpages. >>>>> >>>>> FreeBSD has more than 1400 manpages. If you print them all >>>>> you need more than 3000-4000 pages paper. >>>>> >>>>> You can download the FreeBSD manpages from >>>>> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2.8-RELEASE/manpages/ >>>> >>>> Most of the manpages are printed in Greg Lehey's book, "The Complete >>>> FreeBSD". Book is cheaper than the paper and toner required to print >>>> the manpages. See http://www.cdrom.com/ >>> >>> The general consensus is that the man pages are a waste of space, and >>> they make the book too heavy. The next edition won't have them. If >>> anybody has strong feelings about this, please let me know. >>> >> >> I think the man pages are great in the book. It is nice to have >> something easier to read than a screen when we want docs. > > I'm very sad to hear that O'Reilly will no longer publish the 4.4 BSD manuals. > Glad I got a set. Maybe someone feels that they're becoming not quite relevant > or something. O'Reilly was very disappointed in the sales of the 4.4BSD manuals. It's a reason why they're not interested in publishing any FreeBSD stuff. > But that's where I go. There are things that are better on a > printed page. I usually have Greg's book or a browser open to one page and the > BSD _book_ open to another. Invaluable, both of them. You can't do this stuff > w/out man pages and yes, it's a pain in the pants to have to read them off a > screen sometimes. Besides, you never know when you might want something that > just had to get left out of Greg's selection. Maybe if enough folks pestered > O'Reilly they would re-issue. Just my 2 cents' worth. Thanks Greg & please, > please Tim! I was talking about a book with O'Reilly last year, but it seems to have petered out. I suspect they've decided to do it without me, but they may be doing it. I'll enquire. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message