From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 4 23:05:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B92106566C for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 23:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mx1.sbone.de (mx1.sbone.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:3ffc::401:25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985608FC0A for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 23:05:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.sbone.de (mail.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D530525D3A00; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 23:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97BE3BD64EA; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 23:05:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sbone.de Received: from mail.sbone.de ([IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) by content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pRsJWnK11AKA; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 23:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from orange-en1.sbone.de (orange-en1.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31:cabc:c8ff:fecf:e8e3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C9702BD64E9; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 23:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 23:05:43 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <730334BA-BC68-40CB-8BF2-4517B066ADE7@lists.zabbadoz.net> References: <20111202115446.GB25963@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <4ED974A2.7080606@FreeBSD.org> <4ED9EA27.8090206@inse.ru> <4EDABDE8.9060406@FreeBSD.org> <4EDB8BB5.50607@borderworlds.dk> <4EDBB56B.9020308@inse.ru> To: C. P. Ghost X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: FreeBSD Current mailing list Subject: Re: CVS removal from the base X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:05:50 -0000 On 4. Dec 2011, at 18:07 , C. P. Ghost wrote: > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Roman Kurakin wrote: >> Christian Laursen wrote: >>>=20 >>> [...] >>>=20 >>> I use CVS myself from time to time, but I see no need for it to be = in base >>> for that reason. >>=20 >> By the way, since there is no way to count +/- I guess the rule "do = not >> brake that is working >> or provide a way to do the same" should work. If there is a number of = users >> of smth it should >> not be broken. csup/cvsup does not provide the same. >=20 > Actually, a whole lot of stuff that was still perfectly useable has > been deprecated over the years. I'm thinking of net/freebsd-uucp > for example. Which is a good example as - to my memory - it needs cvs to build. = Moving our CVS (and yes the base CVS has quite some modifications still I = think) into ports would probably mean taking the CVS history and run into a chicken and egg problem;-) We'll need "our" CVS probably for another 2-3 years I think as some = non-significant infrastructure will still depend on it even after docs and ports moved = away from it. Some others have suggested things like "lpd" however which could = probably go to ports as well as it's anther conflict these days for most people = using cups or similar anyway. I can think of more but we shouldn't be overly eager either or we'll end up with a README in src/ saying "please install the following ports;-)" /bz --=20 Bjoern A. Zeeb You have to have visions! It does not matter how good you are. It matters what good you do!=