From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 24 09:02:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A669E16A4CF for ; Mon, 24 May 2004 09:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.server.rpi.edu (smtp2.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B6743D39 for ; Mon, 24 May 2004 09:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp2.server.rpi.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i4OG2cIX006978; Mon, 24 May 2004 12:02:39 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 12:02:38 -0400 To: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Third "RFC" on on pkg-data ideas for ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 16:02:51 -0000 At 2:12 PM +0200 5/24/04, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: >Garance A Drosihn writes: >> The third proposal is basically: >> [rewrite the ports system from scratch] >> So, should we pursue any of this? > >You can't possibly seriously believe that the project will adopt >this model without first seeing proof that it works and has >significant advantages (and no significant disadvantages) over >the existing model. Uh, I didn't say anyone had to accept the final result. I merely ASKED (note: I *ASKED**) if my ideas seemed like they were worth pursuing. If the "people who matter" in the ports collection are certain that they don't like any of these ideas, then there isn't much point in me allocating resources to implement the ideas as fast as possible. I'll just put it on a back burner. No harm done. No need for sarcastic comments on what I "seriously believe". What I seriously believe is that it is quite likely that the present organization of ports can be improved on. I don't know what the perfect ports collection would be like, but I seriously believe that "This Ain't Perfect". Thus I am exploring a number of ideas which (I seriously believe) will result in a better ports collection. I certainly might be *wrong* on that, but that *is* what I "seriously believe". I have spent a significant amount of time and some money in investigating these ideas, and I have repeatedly asked for feedback on what people thought about my ideas. I don't think that is too much to ask. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn =3D gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu