From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 31 21:22:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78A416A4EC; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (66-23-211-162.clients.speedfactory.net [66.23.211.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF1243D8B; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:22:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k7VLLvma028653; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:21:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: Garance A Drosehn Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:21:13 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200608290920.k7T9KmV9067843@repoman.freebsd.org> <200608310848.30549.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200608311721.14081.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:21:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.3/1782/Thu Aug 31 12:54:15 2006 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Tom Rhodes , src-committers@freebsd.org, Ruslan Ermilov , cvs-all@freebsd.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Chatty" config files in /etc X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:22:36 -0000 On Thursday 31 August 2006 16:09, Garance A Drosehn wrote: > At 8:48 AM -0400 8/31/06, John Baldwin wrote: > >On Thursday 31 August 2006 06:18, Tom Rhodes wrote: > >> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:00:04 +0400 > > > Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > >> > > > > No, /etc/defaults are different beasties -- they are true > >> > default config files -- they are either used if there's no > >> > corresponding version under /etc, or most likely sourced > >> > to provide defaults. To be moved to /etc/defaults, a file > >> > should gain the same property. > >> > >> While this comment is blatently obvious: /etc/examples > > > >This is already spelled /usr/share/examples/etc in FreeBSD. > > Actually, as it stands right now that is not quite the same > thing. Right now /usr/share/examples/etc holds *exact copies* > of the files we install in /etc, for the reasons as described > in /usr/share/examples/etc/README.examples : I was thinking of /usr/share/examples/ppp (I thought it had been under /usr/share/examples/etc/ppp). Having /usr/share/examples/etc in its current form really isn't all that useful as for one thing it has rotted a bunch. I think instead that we should repurpose it for expanded versions of files. The current format of /etc/printcap should be an example file for example (it fits with /usr/share/examples/ppp style) and I think we shouldn't even have an /etc/printcap installed by default. Same with /etc/hosts.allow. -- John Baldwin