From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 6 4:48: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745F937B400 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 04:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA99B43E42 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 04:47:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0048.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.48] helo=mindspring.com) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17Qo1h-0003AR-00; Sat, 06 Jul 2002 07:46:58 -0400 Message-ID: <3D26D83F.69219DF6@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 04:45:03 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Richards Cc: Garance A Drosihn , Sheldon Hearn , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Removing perl in make world References: <1025862341.1573.40.camel@lobster.originative.co.uk> <20020705095258.GC775@starjuice.net> <1025864161.1573.45.camel@lobster.originative.co.uk> <3D261EA4.ABC3AEC@mindspring.com> <1025921146.881.16.camel@lobster.originative.co.uk> <1025955773.881.29.camel@lobster.originative.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Paul Richards wrote: > On Sat, 2002-07-06 at 03:46, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > At 3:05 AM +0100 7/6/02, Paul Richards wrote: > > >Let's start with a premise: No-one running current is using > > >it for anything other than developing FreeBSD. > > > > This is assumption is too limiting. > > It shouldn't be. You're trying to defend a position that the project > doesn't support. The -current branch is for FreeBSD developers, or > volunteers brave enough to test the -current branch. > > As such, don't be surprised if it wipes your hard disk clean. It's really "less testing of what will eventually be released and more testers, vs. more testing of what will be eventually released and less testers". It's a saddle curve. Please see the patches I just posted; I think they will permit everyone to "be happy" by letting you add knobs that do what you want to do, set defaults, and then permit people to opt out of those defaults, without having to worry that your default settings will sneak up on them and (e.g.) delete perl out from under them. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message