From owner-freebsd-security Sun May 21 20: 4:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AACF37BB07; Sun, 21 May 2000 20:04:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05249; Sun, 21 May 2000 21:04:17 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000521205727.048b9100@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 21:04:14 -0600 To: Bob Johnson , rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: NAI, PGP, and FreeBSD (was Re: HEADS UP: New host key for freefall!) Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000521225111.0083bb10@rio.atlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:51 PM 5/21/2000, Bob Johnson wrote: > >For all interested: I contacted the appropriate NAI/PGP developers to find > >out about a native FreeBSD build a few weeks ago. The response was that > >they have seen zero (0) demand for a FreeBSD build, and therefore don't > >B.S. - I asked their sales droids about it within the past two months. This is typical. Sales droids ignore, or conveniently forget, requests for ports to platforms which are not already supported. They then claim that there's "no demand." Their motivation for this behavior is that their performance is measured by how much of EXISTING products they sell, not the accuracy of customer feedback they bring back from customers. They see additional platforms as making their lives more difficult. This is why so many sales droids wish that everything but Windows would go away. >I think this is a significant issue. I decided a year ago that it was >useless to contact NAI about anything, so I don't bother. I spent >five months trying to renew + upgrade a 200 user license and never >got anywhere. I'd rather give my money to someone who cares. NAI is -- alas -- a large, shortsighted, profit-oriented "blob" of a company. Other companies vanish into its gaping maw and are absorbed, losing all vestiges of their former identity. Then, the original developers of the products leave, and the products cease to be improved in significant ways. This is what happened with Helix Software, which used to make some very fine products. Eaten by NAI. (Belch!) >In any case, my experience with NAI suggests that we would be >better off putting our energy into convincing just about any >other AV vendor to support FreeBSD. I agree. Trend Micro would be a good candidate, since they furnish software to US West and US West uses FreeBSD internally (as per Barry Caplin). --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message