Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 23:36:55 +0000 (MEZ) From: Rainer M Duffner <Rainer.Duffner@surf24.de> To: Cosmic 665 <the_hermit665@hotmail.com> Cc: james.kelly@tcs.wap.org, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd,netbsd,openbsd Message-ID: <Marcel-1.46-0305233655-b49Zsav@duffner.surf24.de> In-Reply-To: <20000304163714.76208.qmail@hotmail.com>
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On Sat 04 Mar, Cosmic 665 wrote:
> Here are the diferences;
[snip]
Of course this is more or less OT....
> c. Better security due to less popularity
What do you want to say with that ?
OpenBSD has a better default security because all the source in it has
been carefully ("painfully" in the words of the actual reviewers)
screened for possible security holes, race-conditions and memory-leaks.
A very ambitious project, that took several years to complete.
> d. has a better way of dealing with sound than FreeBSD (my
> opinion)
> cons:
> a. No SMP support (yet)
> b. Incompatibities with FreeBSD ports
> c. Lacks all the ports of FreeBSD (less *ported* apps
> specifially for OpenBSD)
It doesn't lack all the ports. It has some, but it is (IMHO) clearly not
designed to be the full-fancied multimedia-surround-box, linux is on the
best way to get.
Also, I expect most OpenBSD-ports to be at least superficially audited.
I see it's role as an OS for firewalls, mail-gateways, secure webservers
and general "last resort" hosts, that should under no circumstances be
cracked and survive even a total network-compromise.
This alone is IMHO a "raison d'etre" for OpenBSD.
That doesn't mean that I can't see me using OpenBSD on my workstation.
In fact, this would make a lot of sence, given the fact that often a lot
of private information (key-rings etc.) is stored on the local HD.
> d. OpenBSD is a 6 month old copy of NetBSD
Theo deRaadt (the founder of the OpenBSD-project) would kill -9 you for
that statement alone ;-) Really.
I don't pretend to understand what led to the split of NetBSD and
OpenBSD, but the impression I got is that these things are better not
discussed in public.
Perhaps they open the files in 70 years or so when everybody involved
back then is dead... ;-)
> NetBSD
> pros:
> a. Multi-platformed
> b. more people run it than OpenBSD
> c. I believe it is the *Prefered-OS* of BSD on macs
> d. More support than OpenBSD for ports/apps
> cons:
> a. SMP support??? (is there any??)
Not yet, but work is "underway"; see daemonnews.
But I think that even ftp.freebsd.org still runs on a single Xeon, at
least that's how I understood the wording from the greeting.
> b. Incompatibilities with FreeBSD ports
Yeah, that's why it's called "the FreeBSD ports-tree" ;-)
> c. Open & NetBSD require more config than FreeBSD
They don't have nice GUIs for fdisk, that is. At least OpenBSD hasn't.
It's OK, if you don't want to split your HD between 3 OSs....
> d. Not as popular as FreeBSD but more popular than openbsd
It's older and runs on more platforms, so the established user-base is
larger, naturally.
I had an early version of a port to a very exotic platform (ARM32)
running, while having to do some programming courses.
It worked quite OK (given the platform), but in the end I bought a PC
and installed FreeBSD.
> Now a lot of people will probably bitch about what I've said. But if you
> search the net you will find it to be *totally-true*. You will probably end
> up using NetBSD on your mac. Screw MacOS X!!!
MacOS X is loosely based on NetBSD and FreeBSD, TTBOMK.
Again, the archives of daemonnews are quite a good source for
information on the MacOS/*BSD topic.
cheers,
Rainer
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