From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 29 18:05:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA26089 for current-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from internet1.mel.cybec.com.au (internet1.mel.cybec.com.au [203.103.154.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26070 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tech34 (tech34.mel.cybec.com.au [203.103.154.37]) by internet1.mel.cybec.com.au (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-14031) with ESMTP id AAA583; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:05:36 +1000 Message-ID: <33DE939C.E3907FDE@cybec.com.au> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:06:36 +1000 From: TLiddelow@cybec.com.au (Tim Liddelow) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Polstra CC: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pccard and -current; a long way to go. :-( X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199707261527.AAA28100@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> <199707290057.RAA29178@austin.polstra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Polstra wrote: > > > The most recent work I did was to make the kernel compile, boot, > and run when built as an ELF executable. That was met with a great > big collective yawn when I committed it. All available evidence > indicates that nobody else gives a tinker's damn about FreeBSD-ELF > except as something fun to argue about passionately. (The people > working on the alpha port are probably going to care about it some > day, whenever they get around to that part.) I'm not complaining, > but I'm also not feeling encouraged to expend any more effort on > it. Well that's a shame John; you may remember my enthusiasm a few years back regarding your efforts and I still feel that way. I just think that perhaps a little bit of PR is in order - why is ELF a good thing? (I know, but perhaps other people don't). What would be the benefits of moving to ELF ? Perhaps you've already done this ... I don't know. But it is a great effort that you've managed to get both libc and the kernel moved to ELF - especially if FreeBSD is going to move to other platforms. Keep up the good work - it's easy to get discouraged - enthusiasm is one of the best traits one can have in a project such as this. Cheers Tim.