From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Apr 1 15:16:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail7.nc.rr.com (fe7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13DB37B719 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:16:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) Received: from stealth.dummynet ([24.25.3.190]) by mail7.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:16:06 -0400 Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.dummynet (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f31MGup07492; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:16:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from aa8vb@nc.rr.com) X-Authentication-Warning: stealth.dummynet: rhh set sender to aa8vb@nc.rr.com using -f Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:16:56 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Edwin Groothuis , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARG!!! 450 Client host rejected: cannot find your hostnam Message-ID: <20010401181656.C6987@nc.rr.com> References: <20010401173827.A6951@nc.rr.com> <004a01c0baf5$8b8e8160$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <004a01c0baf5$8b8e8160$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>; from tedm@toybox.placo.com on Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 02:48:53PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted Mittelstaedt: |> |>Seeing how that is the default sendmail config, it locks all but sendmail |>hackers and the most persistent users off the FreeBSD lists (newbies can |>just forget it). They can't even mail to the lists to get help with the |>problem. | |This is rubbish. If you were running Windows you wouldn't have problems - |and you know why - because your Windows mail clients relay through the |RoadRunner mailserver. | |It is extremely simple to make your FreeBSD system act like a Windows |client ...DS macro in sendmail.cf, it's right under the line that sayd |"Smart relay host" I don't think it's worth a flame war over this. But to clarify, I was talking about FreeBSD users, so Windows mail clients is a bit immaterial (unless they're multibooting, and doing it a bunch, to both configure FreeBSD and to send mail). Also, some UNIX mail clients (Netscape Communicator for one I believe) will ask for the SMTP server to use to relay mail. So users's are in good stead there if they opt for those clients. But many other UNIX mail readers simply invoke the local sendmail to deliver the message. This requires DS macro changes or rebuilding sendmail.cf, not the type of hacking a newbie user will know about. That was my point. |Your bitch is with RoadRunner, not FreeBSD. My "bitch" as you put it is not with RoadRunner or FreeBSD (the OS) -- I like both quite well, thanks -- but rather with the EHLO hostname rejection rule that has been enabled on FreeBSD's list server. |instead of complaining to us, why don't you put your complaints to better |use and yell at Time Warner to get some competitive ISP's online asap. Whatever. Ensuring all IPs every allocated to users have their very-own DNS name entry to keep is not an important ISP service. Randall -- Randall Hopper aa8vb@nc.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message