From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Sun Nov 19 18:46:06 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25420DBB12F for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 18:46:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (hz.grosbein.net [78.47.246.247]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AED961380 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 18:46:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (root@eg.sd.rdtc.ru [62.231.161.221] (may be forged)) by hz.grosbein.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id vAJIk0rw083762 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 19 Nov 2017 19:46:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: m.muenz@spam-fetish.org Received: from [10.58.0.4] ([10.58.0.4]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id vAJIjvMm004092 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 20 Nov 2017 01:45:57 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: OpenVPN vs IPSec To: "Muenz, Michael" , freebsd-net@freebsd.org References: <20171118165842.GA73810@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20171119120832.GA82727@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20171119143054.GC82727@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <17c380fa-cdc8-38b5-f5bf-713f309afc94@spam-fetish.org> From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: <5A11D161.5050104@grosbein.net> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 01:45:53 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <17c380fa-cdc8-38b5-f5bf-713f309afc94@spam-fetish.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, LOCAL_FROM, RDNS_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Report: * -2.3 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * 2.6 LOCAL_FROM From my domains * 1.9 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on hz.grosbein.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 18:46:06 -0000 20.11.2017 1:39, Muenz, Michael wrote: > Victor, perhaps I misunderstood you. I was talking about Site2Site, and only this. > I'm fully at your side that IPSec for Remote Access is horrible and I also don't use it. In fact, FreeBSD 11.1 + mpd5 + ipsec-tools (racoon) works just fine (out-of-box) as L2TP/IPSEC Remote Access server for roaming Android, iPhone, Windows and MacOS X users, including transparent NAT Traversal. Earlier FreeBSD versions, indeed, had problems.