From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jul 22 18:59:59 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4346B8F49 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 18:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2d.google.com (mail-io1-xd2d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6888985342 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 18:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2d.google.com with SMTP id h6so76285893iom.7 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:59:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=OkAxsUIFon2PKdytndAZcBTq4Um/Gl++7eDFYGbGdTM=; b=Dr1cinGz788pV7B6pO1zF33TwjW1n46g3rRbCv2xyl+03ZkHEuFdGLTKm3l7LZnn8G owFXUE3rOMoGEEfAzlM2OstCqwHMJqqxkC90tYLKkMrX5RILCt9kBA17nXDvSi4AbUzU dLhhzMak7o59Qxbd/RmJ8+FPy235/G6rnd2NlkxrpEf/nmg/NFByNm2RYkdVH7d0SmCI HjDumBjpUmJFgx7iJzzTic/PaiiJiQ0m9I1WEdvGtkdyWPdrV7Fn4Yrh/wmRjb5nGDE0 0u37kBJTSGIksjggnrqs8dlKdRtFdOxCTcSc25gPTUX1A6nGFnZb9+CN7rW8g35dEpZV +qrg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=OkAxsUIFon2PKdytndAZcBTq4Um/Gl++7eDFYGbGdTM=; b=j3MlcBOxwmMRN7rc0qo1tNM0BPgxYr0ZIvB206j25XoGhV6uksMZBKMftModpFlTE5 yTgMU3BHq5BhPtlSnGHoJmLc8vrH1rwOtqs4TL+NvZZwDGrBJH/AcuQO8g0a2et8FESz zBquhJCteqrvN651fFwXV+YnIQoyVf0tzSn3jWLmL0TKVvBUbOJqc/fFN1TtxkuK5HuQ SF3kpKZ0vtMfoVuzNbuJSlxqJxV6gjrlyBQ4rUljX9uvyMlyOhp88Vl7bKnzWLDb6um/ LIK01I5dfV5nBbvlZMAU4BcB3R7fxqJB3CuoD1g3Yx9xRgsjwhAe2VKR+tG+s77D26Rr P5bQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUyhc98TQXDZZixKXIRa4fj7UGokOQAp4+Y6UWvrN94nRqEavZS dvTpzrtJw9uYySt/o1l4yBOA3JN2JKU0IPy0b8xy1Zxyd9g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw+gB26u3CPZlcAGi1OKsoToxI4Ed1o+SDlTbr9WRZz+mYi/W9KMkkv7kJug3Odm9UZEc/phyw2FtQ5mGgXQdc= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:901:: with SMTP id t1mr57433667ioi.42.1563821997836; Mon, 22 Jul 2019 11:59:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5ceb24c1-66ce-2603-5eed-78283d9676b7@holgerdanske.com> <23861.63968.885139.970960@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <23861.63968.885139.970960@jerusalem.litteratus.org> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 14:59:45 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Best hardware for a replacement desktop? To: Robert Huff Cc: David Christensen , FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6888985342 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Dr1cinGz; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.93 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.967,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE(-2.96)[ip: (-9.19), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.11), asn: 15169(-2.43), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.d.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 18:59:59 -0000 On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 2:01 PM Robert Huff wrote: > > Aryeh Friedman writes: > > > > You need an uninterruptible power supply (UPS): > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply > > > > Already on my shopping list but half the problem is the machine is > > a name HP and looking at the specs I have likely put more demand on > > the power supply then I can supply if there any drop in voltage. > > I'd be interested to hear how you do this ... but assuming it's > true your solution has two parts: > > 1) the UPS to deal with the "power hiccups". Before you buy, > check ports/sysutils to see what models are covered by available > software. > Neither of the two other systems on the same power strip that where custom build (not name brand) and being careful to not overload the internal supply went down even once > 2) a more vigorous internal power supply. I have no idea if it's > even possible to upgrade HP products short of having HP do it (and > maybe not even then). > This is one of the primary reasons for wanting to upgrade the entire system.... HP refuses to support upgrades and uses non-standard physical dimensions... HP Pavilion 7 is not upgradable and I have already done all the tweaks I can do (and thus overloaded the power supply in all likely hood)... most notably I added 3 SATA drives in it beyond the one it came with (including a SSD), I increased the RAM from 8 GB to 24 GB (works fine despite the stated max being 16 [dmidecode says the max is 128 GB though]), added a mid range nvidia card to it (GeForce GT 710). So all in all I suspect I have severly overtaxed the power supply which is 300W. > > > Respectfully, > > > Robert Huff > > -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org